it's not really like that, a lot of Americans complain without having any kind of comparison.

I have US visa for 10 years. Before getting it through a (what I think is) VERY easy process, I've been told it's going to be a pain, I might not get it, they will grant me a short one, no way in hell am I going to get a 10 years one, etc.

And turns out I even did some of the paperwork incorrectly lol. They allowed me to redo it there and then instead of going through the process again.

This was in the English US embassy in London.

Again, it's very easy to complain when you don't have anything to compare to.

why are minorities incapable to get exactly those id types in 14 months?

and also from what I see the ratio of voters is, the right is targeting randoms, not blacks or whatever.

but lets say they are targeting blacks. why don't blacks get ids in 14 months?

I literally don't leave the house without id. I'm not 15 anymore to just YOLO it.

It makes it more difficult for people to vote because you've now created an additional barrier to people who previously had no issues voting, and the State should be able to demonstrate a compelling interest as to why such a change is necessary. The thing is though, in-person voter fraud, such as the voter impersonation that voter ID laws purport to address, is so rare that there is an incredibly small number of cases that it is arguably insignificant. You then have to consider whether people have access to locations that issue those IDs, whether the citizen has to pay for those IDs (and whether this gets into the waters of essentially a poll tax), etc.

Some states have attempted to address this making mobile ID units that will go out in the community, as well as make sure that the ID can issued with no cost to the individual. However, they don't actually end up issuing very many. I forget what state it was off the top of my head, but their Governor said that their mobile unit issued ~29 IDs in a given year.

ok, so you just ignore my questions, fine.

let me just assume anyone, white black brown yellow green and orange can get ANY kind of id in North Carolina in a matter of a few months, maybe even several weeks.

There is zero reasoning against this. unless you consider minorities incapable of doing the easiest things possible.

I did answer your question.

not really, you danced around the subjects. no one is incapable of getting an id regardless of the rules in North Carolina. Also no one needs more than 14 months to get said id.

you just don't like the new process and I guess that is fine as well.

It's alright, friend. I'll merely wait for other posters who want to talk about voter ID laws, and not simply the general idea of voter ID.

is lacking a bit of nuance in his ill-gotten retort. Voter ID is to make sure that every ballot cast is legal, while also minimizing abuse of absentee ballots (which is where more of the fraud comes in). Honestly, the idea we don't need security and safeguards for elections, and the fact we cant come up with them when we are the freest and wealthiest sovereign in human history, just shows this is clearly about power & corruption. I mean good fucking god, its 2021, how hard is it to have integrity these days, lmao