Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Aug 25 2021 05:39pm)
There are probably a number of factors, but one of the largest is that the Flu is much easier to protect against than something like COVID, and the measures taken have undoubtedly drastically reduced it. Another large factor, and this is hypothetical, is that many people with COVID probably also had the flu, but they're only categorized as having COVID. The vast majority of people who get COVID are those that don't follow guidelines and those who refuse to get vaccinated, the same people who would be susceptible to the flu.
I'd love to hear whatever *logical* assumption you believe has caused the decrease, or you can keep calling everyone stupid "cause they dun understand numbers good like I do."
I have no problem calling people stupid that have snarky replies and then have some 5th grade take that washing your hands and better hygiene resulted in the flu rate imploding 99%. We were washing our hands before 2020, and we've never seen such dramatic decreases in a disease just based on preventative steps like that in a span of a year. A piece of cloth and slightly less interaction would result in rates going lower, that's logical I agree, not 99% though, that's miracle level and you have to suspend you reasoning capacity to come to that conclusion.
I think it's a combination of things but obviously not sure hence why I'm asking and started the discussion thread. I think a fair amount of cases have either been misdiagnosed and possibly thrown into the camp of COVID, which really wouldn't be that farfetched because people that were dying with COVID were categorized as COVID deaths (meaning you could have had like 10 different factors that led to your death but you were just tallied as a COVID death if you had it). The other thing which I think is interesting to study and consider is does COVID interfere with other viruses ability to spread such as the flu. If so how, and what does that mean for future strains of the flu or COVID.
It also seems that the bolded is increasingly not true. Israel was one of the first countries to have a high vaccination rate and this is as of like a week ago:
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Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated, according to an Aug. 16 article from Science that cited national data tracked by Israel's largest health management organization. The figures suggest breakthrough infections may be more common than the term implies, the report suggests.
Most of the vaccinated patients who were hospitalized, about 87 percent, were at least 60 years old.
"This is a very clear warning sign for the rest of the world," said Ran Balicer, CIO at Clalit Health Services, Israel's largest health maintenance organization. "If it can happen here, it can probably happen anywhere," he told Science.
The country has one of the world's highest COVID-19 vaccination levels, with about 78 percent of those ages 12 and older fully vaccinated, mostly with the Pfizer vaccine. At the same time, Israel now has one of the highest infection rates in the world, potentially a sign of waning vaccine immunity as the highly contagious delta variant spreads, Science reports.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.htmlor this example from Massachusetts
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CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.htmlThis post was edited by ofthevoid on Aug 25 2021 06:13pm