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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 14 2021 10:59am)
Is that where Jack Ma went?


I have heard he is just lying low, but no one has seen him in 4 months.
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I still don't quite understand how people honestly think that everything people contribute to society is equal and that capitalism is bad. People tend to always say that "they didn't do it right", or say that the United States or Western governments interfered. There's probably a reason that communist regimes continue to fall as fast as they go up. They're inferior to freedom, and it doesn't take long for people to realize that. Utopia does not exist, and people are corrupt.

Edit: I am not a scholar on the whole Utopian socialism stuff, or Marxism or anything. I just fail to understand how anyone believes that the fruits of flipping a burger should be given equally to someone who saves your life. I'm sure that in an absolute perfect world, anything would work perfectly. However, people are lazy and greedy, and those fuel corruption.

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I still don't quite understand how people honestly think that everything people contribute to society is equal and that capitalism is bad. People tend to always say that "they didn't do it right", or say that the United States or Western governments interfered. There's probably a reason that communist regimes continue to fall as fast as they go up. They're inferior to freedom, and it doesn't take long for people to realize that. Utopia does not exist, and people are corrupt.

Edit: I am not a scholar on the whole Utopian socialism stuff, or Marxism or anything. I just fail to understand how anyone believes that the fruits of flipping a burger should be given equally to someone who saves your life. I'm sure that in an absolute perfect world, anything would work perfectly. However, people are lazy and greedy, and those fuel corruption.


Freedom does not exist, america is the least free country in the first world.
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Freedom does not exist, america is the least free country in the first world.


Can you help me understand this? It feels a little bit free.
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Quote (Tpot @ Jul 14 2021 11:21am)
Can you help me understand this? It feels a little bit free.


No one even knows how many laws are in america, last count was over 30,000, more people are in prison in america per capita than anywhere else in the world..
What exactly do you define as freedom?
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Quote (Tpot @ Jul 13 2021 09:10pm)
I still don't quite understand how people honestly think that everything people contribute to society is equal and that capitalism is bad. People tend to always say that "they didn't do it right", or say that the United States or Western governments interfered. There's probably a reason that communist regimes continue to fall as fast as they go up. They're inferior to freedom, and it doesn't take long for people to realize that. Utopia does not exist, and people are corrupt.

Edit: I am not a scholar on the whole Utopian socialism stuff, or Marxism or anything. I just fail to understand how anyone believes that the fruits of flipping a burger should be given equally to someone who saves your life. I'm sure that in an absolute perfect world, anything would work perfectly. However, people are lazy and greedy, and those fuel corruption.


What you are talking about is called functional stratification and most people recognize it as the correct social order without knowing the term etc.
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No one even knows how many laws are in america, last count was over 30,000, more people are in prison in america per capita than anywhere else in the world..
What exactly do you define as freedom?


Freedom of speech, to do what I want as long as it doesn't cause harm to others. I don't think that saying "no one even knows how many laws are in america" is a good way to demonstrate that it's not a free country. I can smoke weed without getting in trouble, so that's cool.
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Freedom of speech, to do what I want as long as it doesn't cause harm to others. I don't think that saying "no one even knows how many laws are in america" is a good way to demonstrate that it's not a free country. I can smoke weed without getting in trouble, so that's cool.


https://reason.com/2021/05/13/this-38-year-old-man-will-spend-life-in-prison-over-1-5-ounces-of-marijuana/
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 14 2021 07:41am)
China, all of the Soviet satellite states, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. It is indisputable fact that communism did in fact vastly reduce poverty rates everywhere it was tried.


Yes by killing them off sending to gulag and re education centres. Also China is dictatorship ruthless capitalism
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