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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 10 2021 03:10pm)
the democrats that wanted to keep slavery legal were conservatives. the democrats of today are liberals. the republicans (behind lincoln) that wanted to end slavery were liberals.

simply defined conservative means "wants to preserve the way it is", as in keep slavery legal as it had been since Europeans first colonized America.

Andrew Jackson, perhaps the greatest presidential villain to the remaining Native Americans was a Democratic-Republican. He signed into law the Indian Removal act which caused the Trail of Tears.

in any case i was just being cheeky playing on words. but im not sure u do know anything about American history.

Edit: and more accurately 95%+ of indians were killed by disease.


lol no, nice try to twist history but no

you've always been full of shit as evidenced by https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67278491&f=119&p=570378599

I don't trust one word you said. It is a fact that Democrats - the very same organization as we know them today - supported slavery, and Republicans were against it.

I'm actually sure that you know nothing about American history.. but then, I'm not sure whether you're serious or trolling. But I'll always count on the latter because I'm never gonna take anything you say seriously anymore. You're trash.

Have a nice day!
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Jun 10 2021 04:28pm
This whole thread is fucking funny.
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Consider the tone of the flyer.

First, look at the picture of the Senator and AG.

Focusing on Hawley, notice the raised fist and furrowed brows. Raised fists are often considered a negative nonverbal cue signifying aggression and anger. I'm not sure what Hawley was on his way to do in that picture, but I am positive most if not all of us have been in situations where we raised our fist like that when we were about to embark on something exciting or competitive, or maybe we just won a sports game. The brows, just because furrowed, doesnt always mean something negative. But, consider the context of the fist now if you look at the furrowed brows which compliment the fist by demonstrating aggression and intensity you should be able to realize that picture of Hawley is meant to instill a negative emotion in the viewer.

Now on Paxton, theres not much to say about that picture besides it seems the student couldnt find a good raised fist picture like Hawley's and this was the closest the student could find.

Second, noticing the title of the handout.

"The Originalist Case for Inciting Insurrection" is clearly saying that inciting an insurrection is justified according to originalist view of law. The word "incite" meaning to encourage, motivate, or provoke is what gives the handout its entire meaning claiming, "this meeting will be about encouraging and uplifting each other to commit an unlawful insurgency."

Third, the date section.

This section asserts that the insurrection is planned and properly contemplated.

Fourth, the footer.

This is simply tying 2 well-known names to the cause of violence on January 6th.


This is passed mockery and headed into the accusatory zone.

Using the pictures is meant to be emblematic of the insurrection by characterizing those 2 men as ominous by suggesting that they are supporters, planners, and/or leaders of the violence that took place on January 6th.

This is not a mockery. A mockery is imitation often in an exaggerated way or by criticizing or ridiculing. You cant imitate, criticize, or ridicule something or someone of which did not happen as first a thing has to exist in order to imitate it. Those 2 men had nothing to do with the violence that took place on that day which is bordering libel. The message of that handout is loud, clear, and intentionally constructed in a way that accuses those 2 men of breaking the law.

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Quote (Shakti @ Jun 10 2021 05:28pm)
Consider the tone of the flyer.

First, look at the picture of the Senator and AG.

Focusing on Hawley, notice the raised fist and furrowed brows. Raised fists are often considered a negative nonverbal cue signifying aggression and anger. I'm not sure what Hawley was on his way to do in that picture, but I am positive most if not all of us have been in situations where we raised our fist like that when we were about to embark on something exciting or competitive, or maybe we just won a sports game. The brows, just because furrowed, doesnt always mean something negative. But, consider the context of the fist now if you look at the furrowed brows which compliment the fist by demonstrating aggression and intensity you should be able to realize that picture of Hawley is meant to instill a negative emotion in the viewer.

Now on Paxton, theres not much to say about that picture besides it seems the student couldnt find a good raised fist picture like Hawley's and this was the closest the student could find.

Second, noticing the title of the handout.

"The Originalist Case for Inciting Insurrection" is clearly saying that inciting an insurrection is justified according to originalist view of law. The word "incite" meaning to encourage, motivate, or provoke is what gives the handout its entire meaning claiming, "this meeting will be about encouraging and uplifting each other to commit an unlawful insurgency."

Third, the date section.

This section asserts that the insurrection is planned and properly contemplated.

Fourth, the footer.

This is simply tying 2 well-known names to the cause of violence on January 6th.


This is passed mockery and headed into the accusatory zone.

Using the pictures is meant to be emblematic of the insurrection by characterizing those 2 men as ominous by suggesting that they are supporters, planners, and/or leaders of the violence that took place on January 6th.

This is not a mockery. A mockery is imitation often in an exaggerated way or by criticizing or ridiculing. You cant imitate, criticize, or ridicule something or someone of which did not happen as first a thing has to exist in order to imitate it. Those 2 men had nothing to do with the violence that took place on that day which is bordering libel. The message of that handout is loud, clear, and intentionally constructed in a way that accuses those 2 men of breaking the law.


Bad analysis. This is an open and shut case of satire and is totally protected
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Quote (Shakti @ 11 Jun 2021 00:28)
Consider the tone of the flyer.

First, look at the picture of the Senator and AG.

Focusing on Hawley, notice the raised fist and furrowed brows. Raised fists are often considered a negative nonverbal cue signifying aggression and anger. I'm not sure what Hawley was on his way to do in that picture, but I am positive most if not all of us have been in situations where we raised our fist like that when we were about to embark on something exciting or competitive, or maybe we just won a sports game. The brows, just because furrowed, doesnt always mean something negative. But, consider the context of the fist now if you look at the furrowed brows which compliment the fist by demonstrating aggression and intensity you should be able to realize that picture of Hawley is meant to instill a negative emotion in the viewer.

Now on Paxton, theres not much to say about that picture besides it seems the student couldnt find a good raised fist picture like Hawley's and this was the closest the student could find.


Nah man, Hawley's gesture toward the people who would go on to storm the Capitol was exactly as shown in this pic, and the symbolism of what he really did is every bit as bad as it looks. There are many cases where the media is selectively quoting or picturing politicians to distort reality and smear them. This is not one of them.

Hawley made a big bet on becoming the leader of the movement in a post-Trump world, on becoming the standard bearer of "full throttled Trumpism without Trump". It backfired spectacularly when the people he pandered to went on to start an insurrection just minutes later. This image is of him is etched in and will haunt him for the rest of his political career.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 10 2021 04:37pm
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Quote (pwb3 @ Jun 10 2021 05:22pm)
lol no, nice try to twist history but no

you've always been full of shit as evidenced by https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67278491&f=119&p=570378599

I don't trust one word you said. It is a fact that Democrats - the very same organization as we know them today - supported slavery, and Republicans were against it.

I'm actually sure that you know nothing about American history.. but then, I'm not sure whether you're serious or trolling. But I'll always count on the latter because I'm never gonna take anything you say seriously anymore. You're trash.

Have a nice day!


Correct the democrats supported slavery. Apparently u can't read
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Quote (pwb3 @ Jun 10 2021 06:22pm)
lol no, nice try to twist history but no

you've always been full of shit as evidenced by https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67278491&f=119&p=570378599

I don't trust one word you said. It is a fact that Democrats - the very same organization as we know them today - supported slavery, and Republicans were against it.

I'm actually sure that you know nothing about American history.. but then, I'm not sure whether you're serious or trolling. But I'll always count on the latter because I'm never gonna take anything you say seriously anymore. You're trash.

Have a nice day!


Looks like you're the one that needs to pick up a history book. Whines about snipa twisting history when you're literally twisting history.
Claims snipa doesn't know american history when you're sitting here, pretending that the southern strategy didn't happen.
Just quit while you're behind before snipa spanks you and puts you on time out again.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Jun 10 2021 06:05pm
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another recent example:



right wing snowflakes just can't handle the truth, lol.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Jun 2021 00:18)
The Isreal lobby is a beast of its own. Even if views on the Middle East conflict have increasingly aligned along partisan lines in recent years, I would not lump censorship efforts by this particular lobby together with the conservative movement at-large.


oh please, all the "free speech" advocates (on the "intellectual" right, and also in this forum) that clutched their pearls over a publisher deciding (not a coordinated pressure campaign from "the left") to withdraw some books containing blatantly racist stereotypes, acting like it's the end of the world, were completely quiet (or even calling for her to get fired themselves) on this. they are the SAME people, not some seperate entity exclusively concerned with israel. it's right wing "cancel culture".

also, concerning your silly claim that "left wing cancel culture" has overtaken that of right wingers recently, here's a quick reminder of the most banned books of 2019:

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 10 2021 05:18pm)
The Isreal lobby is a beast of its own. Even if views on the Middle East conflict have increasingly aligned along partisan lines in recent years, I would not lump censorship efforts by this particular lobby together with the conservative movement at-large.
Things get complicated when a private business is a monopolist and controls one of the vital channels of modern communication. Note that I'm not a free market fundamentalist, so unlike some other conservatives, I'm not categorically opposed to government regulations on big business out of ideological reasons.


Oh yes, it's definitely liberals trying to outlaw boycotting Israel. lol. That's ridiculous. It's obviously conservative, even if it isn't one specific party.

Also, look at Fender's most recent post. Particularly about how common it is for books and TV shows and whatnot to be censored over LGBTQIA+ content.
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