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Jun 6 2021 06:05pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 6 2021 08:02pm)
yeah and even canada isnt a place i would seek out anymore, if you are not some nature enthusiast



i have been to LA myself and i was shocked how dirty and shitty it was when you go 50 meters beyond the fancy tourist stuff or premium districts

other countries are catching up, while college in the us, as you correctly point out, is mostly a scam and 90% of degrees there are borderline useless

good luck paying your 100k student loan debt with a sociology degree (not to mention that modern tech will kill a lot of pushing paper jobs soon)

the states are slowly becoming a version of south africa, the wealthy live in gated communities behind walls, most of the rest becomes a sinkhole

a lot of skilled people WILL leave or never come to america like they did in the past

the downfall is already happening and its inevitable, the west is finished


They wanted multi cultures. That's what happen when you bring in people who don't know how to contribute to a first world country but instead ask 908725t3809532908 requests to turn a 1st world country in the shithole they came from.
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Jun 7 2021 08:47am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 6 2021 03:34pm)
sounds kinda racist tbh

the thing is that educated people get the hell out as well, california is going to shit and the people about you talk will get better options as a lot of countries advance further

the good software engineers etc wont stay forever in sinkholes like san francisco with ridiculous taxes, prices, garbage, drugs and homeless people in the streets

the exodus of skilled workers in the west has already begun


This is a good thing. Having these huge population areas that artificially increase property value and make living in the area difficult or impossible is something that needs to be done away with.

But probably just means the issue will be brought somewhere else cause all the highly skilled workforce will just go somewhere else and repeat the same process.

And then automation will compound on this and make those less skilled or employable less useful or useless and end up with more statistics of despair.
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Jun 7 2021 09:16am
As usual, it a bad solution for stopping tax haven crooks.

Companies that set up in locations with low taxes, should have to pay and import tax to the country they came from, to sell in that country.
This way there's no advantage to moving operations to low tax countries.

Further, it avoids the dangers of "global decision making", where countries with say a 100th the GDP, of a country like the US, get an equal vote.
That is a recipe for disaster.

G20 will not adopt this.

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Jun 7 2021 10:07am
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 7 2021 11:16am)
As usual, it a bad solution for stopping tax haven crooks.

Companies that set up in locations with low taxes, should have to pay and import tax to the country they came from, to sell in that country.
This way there's no advantage to moving operations to low tax countries.

Further, it avoids the dangers of "global decision making", where countries with say a 100th the GDP, of a country like the US, get an equal vote.
That is a recipe for disaster.

G20 will not adopt this.


wait, so you are saying you don't accept the EC now?
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Jun 7 2021 10:13am
Why don't you guys become your own boss instead of making someone else rich? Don't pay tax and keep your $. Invest it in crypto and keep it afloat until you need to cash it out. There's many way to cash in without leaving trace and paying tax.

Either way, fuck them.

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Jun 7 2021 12:00pm
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jun 7 2021 06:13pm)
Why don't you guys become your own boss instead of making someone else rich? Don't pay tax and keep your $. Invest it in crypto and keep it afloat until you need to cash it out. There's many way to cash in without leaving trace and paying tax.

Either way, fuck them.


i am happy enough being an employee if the pay and time investment are good, but i will make use of being location independent in a no income tax country

preparations are running on all cylinders and i am already funneling all my cash into crypto through an offshore bank account

especially in europe there are so many thinking about getting out, states can tax as much as they want, it wont stop the brain drain
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Jun 7 2021 03:35pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 6 2021 07:17pm)
In London, UK, G7 finance ministers voted on a landmark deal to put in place a minimum corporate income tax rate on Saturday (June 5th).

It is a historic agreement that looks like a revolution. G7 finance ministers met in London on Saturday (June 5th) to discuss a global tax.
The latter concerns a minimum taxation of the profits of multinationals at 15% in order to avoid tax dumping.
"With this agreement and this minimum tax rate, we can ensure that countries and companies, wherever they operate, are on an equal footing," said Rishi Sunak, Minister of Finance of the Kingdom. -United.

"The digital giants really taxed"

This vote was made possible by the new administration Joe Biden, after Donald Trump torpedoed it three years ago.
Another measure directly targets hyper-profitable multinationals, such as digital giants. "It's historic because for the first time, the digital giants will be really taxed when they have largely escaped tax for years.
Concretely, you have a multinational that is making profits in France, that decides to relocate to a country where it pays only 1, 2 or 3% corporate tax. Well, it will have to pay the difference to France, "detailed Bruno Le Maire.

The agreement will be ratified next weekend by Joe Biden and the other G7 heads of state, and will then have to be adopted by the G20 next July in Italy.


I'm wondering what it entails.. there not much info with quick google searches. I mean: On paper it's only a few percent for the lowest corp tax in the g7/20: (They don't a have national representatives in these talks, small point for Calipso)
Ireland 12.5%
Cyprus 12.5%
Bulgaria 10%
Hungary 9%

All other 50ish countries have higher corp taxes. But that story becomes shadier with the largest multinationals, making deals with governments across borders, having different laws for especially deductibles on taxation. Just making the a minimum of 15% post deduction, is a completely different story.

The "another measure" actually seems more relevant at first glance ?
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Jun 7 2021 03:56pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 7 Jun 2021 23:35)
I'm wondering what it entails.. there not much info with quick google searches. I mean: On paper it's only a few percent for the lowest corp tax in the g7/20: (They don't a have national representatives in these talks, small point for Calipso)
Ireland 12.5%
Cyprus 12.5%
Bulgaria 10%
Hungary 9%

All other 50ish countries have higher corp taxes. But that story becomes shadier with the largest multinationals, making deals with governments across borders, having different laws for especially deductibles on taxation. Just making the a minimum of 15% post deduction, is a completely different story.

The "another measure" actually seems more relevant at first glance ?


Tax would apply to any company which is doing tax evasion. It's a massive change: 15% is really big and it could be more later.
I hardly see politics going backward on that now. Ofc there will be some kind of negociations, but globally it's just a massive amount of money.

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Jul 1 2021 12:32pm
Taxation of multinationals: the OECD agrees on an agreement for a minimum rate of 15%
More than 100 countries have participated in the agreement, but Ireland and Hungary have decided not to join.

"A historic day for economic diplomacy." One hundred and thirty countries reached an agreement on Thursday July 1 on a reform of the taxation of multinationals, including the establishment of a minimum tax on profits "of at least 15%", announced the Cooperation Organization and economic development (OECD). A small group of states, including Ireland and Hungary, very reluctant to the proposed agreement that was under negotiation, did not sign the declaration reached today.

The joint declaration, which is based on the agreement reached at the G7 at the beginning of June, also provides for a "more equitable" distribution of the profits between the countries where the head offices of the companies are located and those where they actually carry out their activity, even without physical presence. This component particularly targets digital giants like Google and Facebook. The participants in the negotiations have given themselves until next October to "complete the technical work" and to prepare "an effective implementation plan in 2023".

US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen hailed "a historic day for economic diplomacy", while her German counterpart, Olaf Scholz, spoke of a "colossal step towards greater tax justice". For the French Minister of the Economy, Bruno Le Maire, this is "the most important international tax agreement concluded for a century".

~130 countries.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jul 1 2021 12:33pm
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Jul 1 2021 02:20pm
Of course Donald Trump wanted to keep the oligarchy strong.
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