Agreed regarding real wealth. I will never prioritize riches and flashy things over a fulfilling life. We all will lay on that final bed one day in our last moments and I doubt there has been anyone at that point who thought the benz in the parking lot was worth what it truly cost them.

Problem is, if we're being completely fair, the average person been taught to think "ohh I want what he/she has" and that if they did have that, that's the entire key to life and they'll finally be happy (which is literally never the true result).

Economic models like Socialism, Communism, etc that take this idea and put it on "steroids" (for lack of a better word, sorry, very tired today). Not only can you envy your neighbor to the point of a possible mental snap, you now can use the power of the government to essentially steal his/her earnings on the back end. A good friend of mine one said...... If a top-notch cardiac surgeon can't own a Ferrari (investment/reward ratio), then when will there ever be any top-notch cardiac surgeons again? Regardless of how he/she may feel in their final moments about their life's decisions, if the incentive isnt there, its never happening.

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jun 6 2021 02:53pm

It hurts my feeling because the only reason you are shitposting here in the comfort of your place is because capitalism was a thing, true capitalism is the holy grail ideology, it is the laissez faire beauty. Too bad we're in a Keynesian ideology now more than anything.


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In the roman empire, the elites would have packs of attack dogs with them at all times to ward off criminals. Even sleep with them all in the room.

Yup. If this wasnt a democracy, cheva would be shot for a thread like this.

It is not capitalism that has brought a high standard of living to the West: it is the dollar world currency.

Even if we consider that it is capitalism that enriched America, we must not forget the Americans.
If the Americans had a charitable system like France, they would also have contributed a lot to the world, maybe even more.

The opposite of capitalism is communism. But between these two systems there is France, there is charity.

Most of the rich people like to share some of their wealth to their needy fellow citizens. The charitable government helps the rich share.

The charitable system is a capitalism system where charity is organized.
The capitalist system is a charitable system where charity is disorganized.

This post was edited by Chevaucheur on Jun 6 2021 04:36pm

Let them eat cake right


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Any one position on a ladder, including a wealth/economic ladder, depends on some kind of hierarchy to allow for differentiation or else there's no meaning for "wealth" or "wealth mobility". For that reason, capitalism necessitates entire swaths of people to comprise the lowest of the rungs and to exist in abject poverty. This is true on a local level, but greatly exacerbated on a global level.

Don't you find it interesting how in talks about capitalism the emphasis is near-always on an individual level, including your own post? It's all about any one individual "pulling themselves up by the bootstraps", about how any one individual can go from "rags to riches", and rarely about how capitalism benefits society as a whole.

Well, if I am being fair, to that I respond:

I have 2 children, a fiancee', my own rent, cable, internet, phone, support for my children (which is far more expensive than you can imagine unless you have kids), my $50/$35 a month donations to St.Judes and Shriners respectively (no bragging - I am discussing bills and this is a bill), my need to work with my fiancee as a teammate and dedicate time to our relationship (in addition to my need to protect her physically which has happened twice in the last 5 years), and multiple other responsibilities that I could, but would far too tl;dr at that point.

When did it become anyone else's responsibility to parent, support and raise my children, or do any of the above for me?

That's what you're arguing for. I am arguing for individual accountability, merit and successes based on said merit. We all have the capability. I was never handed anything in life either, honestly (and have spent almost an entire winter in a car in my lifetime). It's about determination and deciding you want better than any current state you don't enjoy.

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jun 6 2021 05:53pm