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Jun 2 2021 05:35pm
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jun 2 2021 06:07pm)
Your neighbor in every sense of the word.


uh, listen honey, i live in a suburban white neighborhood with million dollar houses surrounding me, you can rest assured there aren't any minorities nearby, so tell me again why i should care

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 2 2021 07:05pm)
To be fair, this is about Old Mexico and not New Mexico. I can understand the confusion.


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Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 2 2021 02:16pm)
Because marijuana is a piecemeal combination of legal and illegal, so there's still a trafficking incentive, even with the legal farms. Legalize all this shit at a federal level (not just marijuana - all of it), and the incentive for cartels to kill judges, cops, mayors, etc all but disappears. They're obviously going to find a way to continue making money, but if thousands aren't being slaughtered in the process, then that's a win. Plus, we're not spending billions on the interdiction, enforcement, prosecution, and incarceration of drug offenders. There's a lot of intersecting societal issues that get positively impacted by not throwing hundreds of thousands of people in jail for drug offenses. Gang violence, breakup of nuclear families in the inner city, etc. Put a fraction of the money we spend on enforcement into drug rehabilitation and treatment programs, and it gets even better.


I'm really not convinced of that. If we take a look at Los Zetas, they've become increasingly diverse in terms of revenue streams. They get money from piracy, kidnapping, human trafficking, etc. In 2017, it's estimated they control 40% of the world's stolen oil! Obviously the Zetas are a special case because they are particularly brutal and comprised of former special forces. However, the blueprint is there on how to adapt your revenue stream and stay in power.

Suppose Pfizer got involved in the production of cocaine. What's to stop the cartels from killing the board's children in America? How is a legal business entity different than a rival cartel from a cartel's point of view? I think your argument would hold water if countries like Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc. were more stable. I agree that we can target leadership but that tends to create smaller cells (similar to terrorist cells). That typically causes more chaos in those areas which something we'd like to avoid.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41576.pdf
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Take away the cartels' raison d'etre, and you get rid of this shit.


Fentanyl is Chinese biowarfare.

The only option at this point is to send the Marines in on an extermination campaign.
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Fentanyl is Chinese biowarfare.

The only option at this point is to send the Marines in on an extermination campaign.


Yeah, go ahead and send the Marines into the country with the largest standing army in the world. Let's see how well that goes over.
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Jun 2 2021 06:33pm
Why send marines when we could just strike the three gorges dam and kill millions who live below it
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Why send marines when we could just strike the three gorges dam and kill millions who live below it


Because we care more about our people than they do about theirs. If we lost a million people in a bombing, Americans would be devastated. If the Chinese lost half a BILLION people, I don't think they'd be upset as us.
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Jun 2 2021 06:51pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 2 2021 04:05pm)
To be fair, this is about Old Mexico and not New Mexico. I can understand the confusion.


Thanks for clarifying!
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Yeah, go ahead and send the Marines into the country with the largest standing army in the world. Let's see how well that goes over.


Iraq did. We slaughted them and pissed on their graves within a week.

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Iran did. We slaughted them and pissed on their graves within a week.


You never invaded iran.
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Jun 2 2021 06:56pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 2 2021 08:53pm)
You never invaded iran.


Reread the post.
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