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May 7 2021 09:35pm
I started drawing the outline in my mind before I finished reading the question
I drew it inverted clockwise starting at about 9 on the clock and thought about Christ's Pentecost before I could finish reading the poll answers & instead of finishing reading the poll answers I assumed there was gonna be an option for "communist flag."
Still didn't finish reading the poll, not gonna vote
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May 7 2021 09:51pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 7 2021 08:31pm)
In my mind, there is some sort of abstraction with the following characteristics: straight edges, filled red shape, a star. I'm still unsure what camp I'd be in.


If you look at the star in box #6 in the OP and then close your eyes and try to picture/re-create the image you see in box #6, are you able to do it in a way that includes visual imagery?
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May 7 2021 09:56pm
i imagined a nekkid butt... But it was extremely vivid!
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May 7 2021 10:32pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 7 2021 08:34pm)
Based on what you've said I don't think you visualize at all. When I've asked people they tend to know exactly what I'm talking about if they're a strong visualizer.

I can kinda get what that kind of thought is like if I really focus on shutting down the visualization portion of my brain, but at this point its so ingrained to visualize and have an inner mologue that it's difficult. It's also exceedingly difficult to shut down my monologue for any significant amount of time, but that's probably more my ADHD.


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If you look at the star in box #6 in the OP and then close your eyes and try to picture/re-create the image you see in box #6, are you able to do it in a way that includes visual imagery?


Having watched the video, when asked to describe Ronald McDonald surfing, I could EASILY do it. I could tell you the curvature of the wave, the look on his face, his stance, etc. Now I understand what they mean by visualization. I would place myself in the strong visualization camp.

Quote (bogie160 @ May 7 2021 08:34pm)
I'm not sure. I can "imagine" a red star, but it's obviously very different from seeing a red star.

Right, this is what was confusing to me. I think I needed a more specific example that I haven't actually seen before for me to know. People with aphantasia are unable to describe such a scenario.
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May 8 2021 05:06am
Of the poll options you gave, the second to last fits me the most: "a blurry, dull 5-point red star". However, of the 6 picture options, the 6th one fits my visualization to a tee.
Generally speaking, I have a pretty good ability to visualize things if I want to, but not "in HD" if you know what I mean. Also, I do not subconsciously visualize things in great details.


I would say that my thinking is generally more associative and implicit than structured and explicit. It's a general pattern in my life that I struggle, and need to expend considerable effort, to express myself in a way so that others can follow my thought process. This is complicated by the fact that I have what I would call "inconsistently brilliant moments". Sometimes it takes me just a few moments to grasp the gist of a complex issue that takes others 30 minutes of debate and back and forth before they arrive at the conclusion which I was seeing all along. At other times, my thinking and arguing gravitates to details and complexities which are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and I'm a bit of a blockhead.



Regarding the inner monologue: I sometimes, but not always have it, and often times think about issues or topics in an intuitive, hazy way without clearly spelling it out or visualizing it in my head. This again goes back to my occasional struggles at communicating my ideas and arguments.

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May 8 2021 07:06am
I can see a red star like normal.

Edit: why is the image of the stars all blurry? Just a low quality image or do people legitimately not see a normal star and it’s blurry??

This post was edited by inkanddagger on May 8 2021 07:10am
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May 8 2021 09:01am
I suspect this has a lot to do with Visual IQ.

A medical professional forced me to take a set of IQ tests. Math and Verbal reasoning were closer average but spatial reasoning was off the charts ~99.6 percentile.

Whites and Asians tend to have very high visual IQ's, whereas Jews and Blacks have higher Verbal reasoning.

It sounds like it is correlated with Myer Briggs Neuroticism as well.

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May 8 2021 09:02am
Seen it immediately but I've seen the communist red star so many times I would have to use another icon. But I can immediately close my eyes and see the double headed eagle Crest, recall Alexander the Greats medusa imprint from his cutlass. I can summon the logo of my health system. It takes effort and focus to do strangely with all but the red star. I wonder if it is a schema thing or a result of personal experience.
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May 8 2021 09:40am
Quote (Handcuffs @ May 7 2021 10:43pm)
Would you say that is vivid to the point that it is 1:1 v. seeing it IRL?


Thor and I can probably render a Möbius strip in our mind's eye.
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May 8 2021 09:58am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 8 2021 10:40am)
Thor and I can probably render a Möbius strip in our mind's eye.


I can confirm that's a pretty trivial task.
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