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Mar 25 2021 11:57am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 25 2021 12:53pm)
im a bit confused, so you don't sin? im assuming you consider yourself saved. or are you saying when you do sin its god's plan?



No you misunderstood. My spirit does not sin it is born of God. I still have the flesh that’s born with the sin nature. I have a choice to walk in the spirit or walk in the flesh. I still have free will. The difference is my spirit doesn’t sin only my flesh does. So God will chastise my flesh only. Since my spirit cannot sin, it is not eligible for hell. That’s how God makes eternal life possible. The wages of sin is death. This flesh will die, I will receive a new incorruptible body at Jesus’ second coming.
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Mar 25 2021 11:59am
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No you misunderstood. My spirit does not sin it is born of God. I still have the flesh that’s born with the sin nature. I have a choice to walk in the spirit or walk in the flesh. I still have free will. The difference is my spirit doesn’t sin only my flesh does. So God will chastise my flesh only. Since my spirit cannot sin, it is not eligible for hell. That’s how God makes eternal life possible. The wages of sin is death. This flesh will die, I will receive a new incorruptible body at Jesus’ second coming.


i understand now.

if i may ask do you belong to a specific sect?

ive been to lutheran, methodist, and catholic churches and never heard this explanation in this way.
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Mar 25 2021 12:01pm
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i understand now.

if i may ask do you belong to a specific sect?

ive been to lutheran, methodist, and catholic churches and never heard this explanation in this way.



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Mar 25 2021 12:06pm
Just another thing that shows that the whole narrative of the Bible was written with "how to control and scare the people" as a starting point. "Does all of this make sense from the ground up?" was never a question that crossed the writers' minds.
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Mar 25 2021 12:17pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Mar 25 2021 11:10am)
You don’t go to heaven by keeping the law, you go to heaven by faith alone.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Though satan and demons can tempt you, that’s not where sin comes from.

Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Satan has not been cast into hell yet.

Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Satan isn’t the warden of hell he is a prisoner

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


So if you warp your mind enough to believe in something or have faith as you put it, it will come true?

Sounds pretty cultish to me.

This post was edited by SBD on Mar 25 2021 12:17pm
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Mar 25 2021 12:21pm
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So if you warp your mind enough to believe in something or have faith as you put it, it will come true?

Sounds pretty cultish to me.



Thank you for your unsolicited opinion, has no bearing on the truth of God’s word. Every man is without excuse.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

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Thank you for your unsolicited opinion, has no bearing on the truth of God’s word. Every man is without excuse.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.


Can't I use this to justify belief in any god or gods?
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Mar 25 2021 12:25pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 25 2021 01:24pm)
Can't I use this to justify belief in any god or gods?



Sure, you have free will.
E/ Doesn’t change the reality that the God of the KJV Bible is the only true God.

This post was edited by Jesus_Lives on Mar 25 2021 12:27pm
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Mar 25 2021 12:26pm
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Just another thing that shows that the whole narrative of the Bible was written with "how to control and scare the people" as a starting point. "Does all of this make sense from the ground up?" was never a question that crossed the writers' minds.


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Mar 25 2021 12:29pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Mar 25 2021 01:25pm)
Sure, you have free will.
E/ Doesn’t change the reality that the God of the KJV Bible is the only true God.


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