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Mar 15 2021 10:33am
It's probably true Trump was the last republican president anyway.
I think next step is democrats taking a crushing lead in local states (governors etc)
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Mar 15 2021 10:42am
It’s still very early, & he hasn’t really done much. Thankfully the COVID relief is going fairly well, thanks to Trumps operation warp speed, despite Biden’s warning of a “dark winter” & not having a vaccine by the middle of the year. It’s March. We have 3. Gas prices are of course up, as are the border numbers. Polling wise he’s just north of 50%, putting him at the bottom of the list of presidents polling numbers in their first two months.
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Mar 15 2021 10:52am
Crushing on a wall at warp speed hurts. Losers can thanks Donald Trump for that.
US will first switch to a standard welfare country, like in Europe (or almost everywhere); republican party will disapear for like a decade or two, the time changes applies.
Later a new republican party will emerge, it will include welfare as default and these policies will not be really questionned anymore. Basically the same than European moderated right parties.
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Mar 15 2021 11:28am
His EO's and policy shifts are the reason why gas went up by almost a dollar a gallon so my perception is slightly negative based on that. To the average family with two cars, that's a difference of over $1000 in after tax income, something that definitely makes a difference. I have two gas-efficient cars and it'll be like a grand, people that have work-type vehicles like trucks or larger SUV's and that's another 500-600 minimum on top of that.

There are also hidden costs that we don't directly have visibility in. Almost all goods are transported. From raw to factory from the factory to warehouse, from the warehouse to store. At the end of the day, the consumer and American public will be paying a higher price on goods because those companies have to spend more at the gas pump.

Aside from that, he hasn't really done much, at least not that the media is covering.

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Mar 15 2021 12:35pm
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His EO's and policy shifts are the reason why gas went up by almost a dollar a gallon so my perception is slightly negative based on that.


Was it? Or was it Texas, our national hub for refinement, getting frozen for two weeks?
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 15 2021 02:35pm)
Was it? Or was it Texas, our national hub for refinement, getting frozen for two weeks?



Texas weather was a blip on the radar. Inconsequential compared to things like killing off the keystone pipeline or increasing regulation. If you look at Crude Oil price, it essentially went up from 40 to 60+ since November, right after the election.

Last time gasoline was 4/gallon was under another Democrat president. It makes sense really, higher regulation usually leads to lower supply and/or higher costs leading to higher commodity prices.



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Mar 15 2021 01:13pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 15 2021 11:29am)
I like two bucks for a full tank with $20, thanks.


Deflation to MAGA?
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 15 Mar 2021 18:28)
His EO's and policy shifts are the reason why gas went up by almost a dollar a gallon so my perception is slightly negative based on that. To the average family with two cars, that's a difference of over $1000 in after tax income, something that definitely makes a difference. I have two gas-efficient cars and it'll be like a grand, people that have work-type vehicles like trucks or larger SUV's and that's another 500-600 minimum on top of that.

There are also hidden costs that we don't directly have visibility in. Almost all goods are transported. From raw to factory from the factory to warehouse, from the warehouse to store. At the end of the day, the consumer and American public will be paying a higher price on goods because those companies have to spend more at the gas pump.

Aside from that, he hasn't really done much, at least not that the media is covering.


if someone asked me to describe american ignorance (to climate change, economics, globalisation...), short-sightedness, and selfishness in a nutshell, i'd show them your post, lol.
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if someone asked me to describe american ignorance (to climate change, economics, globalisation...), short-sightedness, and selfishness in a nutshell, i'd show them your post, lol.


When you grow up and move out of your mom's boyfriend's basement and have to pay bills I'm sure that tune will change. Until then carry on with being a pretentious snob who's disconnected from everyday realities.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 15 2021 02:12pm)
Texas weather was a blip on the radar. Inconsequential compared to things like killing off the keystone pipeline or increasing regulation. If you look at Crude Oil price, it essentially went up from 40 to 60+ since November, right after the election.

Last time gasoline was 4/gallon was under another Democrat president. It makes sense really, higher regulation usually leads to lower supply and/or higher costs leading to higher commodity prices.


I'm generally in favor of higher fossil fuel costs. We've been getting a free ride for far too long, socializing the costs and pumping subsidy to keep gas pump prices low.

Keystone was garbage and should have never happened. It directly violated our treaties with the tribe who's land it passed through and Obama should have shut it down before it ever became an issue. Too bad he was a pussy.


Anyway back to read things.

Was Keystone XL actually pumping? I haven't kept up with it so I don't know the status. I know there was some construction happening as late as January? What regulations did he have the power to enact in November? That seems to be a pretty solid bullet in the claim that his actions caused a price increase if he wasn't even president when prices started going up right?
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