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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 2 2021 05:59pm)
I'm almost a year into asking for an alternative to what Cuomo did and best I've got is rent out a dozen hotels with no medical staff for elderly recovering from covid.

So no. Literally nobody has articulated what he has done wrong no matter how many times I ask.


Im open to Cuomo having an alternative, but nobody has been able to articulate one that would work.


Still no response to this and its just floating out there.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 2 2021 04:59pm)
I'm almost a year into asking for an alternative to what Cuomo did and best I've got is rent out a dozen hotels with no medical staff for elderly recovering from covid.

So no. Literally nobody has articulated what he has done wrong no matter how many times I ask.


Im open to Cuomo having an alternative, but nobody has been able to articulate one that would work.


Um, Covid wards?
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Um, Covid wards?


Did they have the rooms or staff? They were at absolute max even after bussing in a ton more staff.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 2 2021 07:23pm)
Did they have the rooms or staff? They were at absolute max even after bussing in a ton more staff.


Split hairs because you hate being wrong.

We'll tell you a dozen more times but you're just too dumb to fit it in your noggin.
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Split hairs because you hate being wrong.

We'll tell you a dozen more times but you're just too dumb to fit it in your noggin.


When I need the opinion of an incel I'll ask you.
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Quote (IceMage @ 2 Mar 2021 23:54)
Can someone articulate what Cuomo did wrong, and what level of responsibility he holds?

For instance, Trump lied to the American people and didn't seem to care about the pandemic at any level. He purposefully promoted actions that would lead to more deaths(anti-masking, large rallies, etc). That's different from an executive who was interested in the problem and followed expertise around him, making decisions that turned out to be wrong.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 2 Mar 2021 23:59)
I'm almost a year into asking for an alternative to what Cuomo did and best I've got is rent out a dozen hotels with no medical staff for elderly recovering from covid.

So no. Literally nobody has articulated what he has done wrong no matter how many times I ask.


Im open to Cuomo having an alternative, but nobody has been able to articulate one that would work.


Quote (Skinned @ 3 Mar 2021 00:47)
Still no response to this and its just floating out there.



Oh come on, the Army Corps of engineers had specifically constructed field hospitals in NYC to deal with the surge of ICU patients flooding their hospitals - these hospitals had the beds and the staff of physicians and nurses to treat patients, but they largely remained empty because of silly red tape, turf battles and communication failure. See here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/coronavirus-hospital-usta-queens.html
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/52m-field-hospital-in-new-york-treated-only-79-covid-19-patients.html

So, you're asking what Cuomo should have done? He should have used his emergency powers and, if necessary, his authority as the governor to force these empty and well-staffed hospitals to take in the covid-positive patients for the duration of their infectious period instead of sending them back to their nursing homes; red tape be damned.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 2 2021 06:26pm)
Oh come on, the Army Corps of engineers had specifically constructed field hospitals in NYC to deal with the surge of ICU patients flooding their hospitals - these hospitals had the beds and the staff of physicians and nurses to treat patients, but they largely remained empty because of silly red tape, turf battles and communication failure. See here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/coronavirus-hospital-usta-queens.html
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/52m-field-hospital-in-new-york-treated-only-79-covid-19-patients.html

So, you're asking what Cuomo should have done? He should have used his emergency powers and, if necessary, his authority as the governor to force these empty and well-staffed hospitals to take in the covid-positive patients for the duration of their infectious period instead of sending them back to their nursing homes; red tape be damned.


Whos red tape was it? Because if it was army then it was on trump to allow covid patients. Thats why Cuomo wasnt allowed to use the hospital ship, Cuomo made several public calls to Trump to allow Covid patients on board.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 2 2021 06:31pm
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The nursing home directive came March 25th and received patients up until about the 8th of April, by that point over 80% of the 310 nursing homes accepting these patients already had reported cases or suspected cases.
The first temporary hospital went up April 10th.

Prior to that and up to April 10th, where should those patients have gone?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 2 2021 07:30pm)
Whos red tape was it? Because if it was army then it was on trump to allow covid patients. Thats why Cuomo wasnt allowed to use the hospital ship, Cuomo made several public calls to Trump to allow Covid patients on board.


Same red tape. They weren't accepting patients with fevers.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Mar 2 2021 06:39pm
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acting like all cruz did was take an ill-advised vacation, and being generally unlikeable, is some serious revisionist history, lol. maybe familiarise yourselves with his political record.
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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Mar 2 2021 06:38pm)
The nursing home directive came March 25th and received patients up until about the 8th of April, by that point over 80% of the 310 nursing homes accepting these patients already had reported cases or suspected cases.
The first temporary hospital went up April 10th.

Prior to that and up to April 10th, where should those patients have gone?

Same red tape. They weren't accepting patients with fevers.


In other words, same shit different day. Still no viable alternatives, just conservatives ignoring reality so they can hate on a Democrat.

I mean, I don't know shit about Cuomo. Literally the only thing about him that's ever been on my radar has been the nursing home thing. I have no attachment to him, it's just that this nursing home thing is so thin....
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