There's always been oppression in society, and so there has always been somebody fighting against it. Whether or not it aligns with "the left" isn't real a determination we can make if you go back further than about 100 years.

Well, I wasn't exactly referring to the times of Mesopotamia

Our entire political spectrum only goes back a few hundred years. The fathers of the modern conservative movement only go back to the 1700's with the French revolution, in which they basically wrote about how the monarchy is great, and if we can't keep the monarchy we need to rely on the market to create an artificial one.

Very interesting when you start digging into it. It made me realize the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals is how much you value hierarchy. The conservative worldview is fundamentally built around hierarchy, and they view all of societies problems as being caused by the hierarchy not being set up correctly. So when they see liberals want to raise the wage floor, that's bad because it interferes with the natural up and down flow of people within the hierarchy, and when you try to elevate somebody else it must come by lowering somebody else relative to them.

I only looked at briefly but read she did a good job in Pennsylvania? What happened exactly

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You mean the royalist vs. republican strife, basically? Many countries are still fighting the good fight today, spare a thought for us

Oppression is a real thing and thus exists in the world for several reasons - primarily because nature taxes us with responsibilities in order to survive, sometimes it also is perpetrated by evil men upon other men.

Satanic liberal views however use this as an excuse to do whatever they want in contradiction of reality itself with the "oppression" as justification. Perceived oppression justifying evil acts in response.

The delusions of grandeur that liberals have is a source of evil in this world that has been happening since Cain was deluded into thinking that braining Abel over perceived oppression was a good idea.


The idea of societal decay is related, because more decayed individuals will be unable to understand or attend to accidental or purposeful oppression that exists. Declined individuals will respond to these stresses in ways that are increasingly inappropriate and ineffective.

Societal decay in general is best related to the ability of the average person in society to resist tyranny and real oppressions. In an age where less than 30% of our population knows the three branches of government, this decay is quite severe.

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That's more or less the origin of modern conservatism. Then you get liberalism which is basically saying "Okay, we can have hierarchy and all that, but we gotta keep the field at least superficially even". Liberalism is a centrist ideology after all.

Then later you get Marx and his ilk who bring leftism into the spectrum.

Prior to any of these you don't really have a political spectrum as we know it, so you can't really put them clearly on our modern political spectrum.

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It does a number of important things. It gets people what they need for free immediately, which means that they are capable of living and reproducing their lives without having to rely on jobs or a wage — which, during COVID times, is widely unreliable or, particularly in these communities is often not available, or it comes at great risk. That's looting's most basic tactical power as a political mode of action.

It also attacks the very way in which food and things are distributed. It attacks the idea of property, and it attacks the idea that in order for someone to have a roof over their head or have a meal ticket, they have to work for a boss, in order to buy things that people just like them somewhere else in the world had to make under the same conditions. It points to the way in which that's unjust. And the reason that the world is organized that way, obviously, is for the profit of the people who own the stores and the factories. So you get to the heart of that property relation, and demonstrate that without police and without state oppression, we can have things for free.

Importantly, I think especially when it's in the context of a Black uprising like the one we're living through now, it also attacks the history of whiteness and white supremacy. The very basis of property in the U.S. is derived through whiteness and through Black oppression, through the history of slavery and settler domination of the country. Looting strikes at the heart of property, of whiteness and of the police. It gets to the very root of the way those three things are interconnected. And also it provides people with an imaginative sense of freedom and pleasure and helps them imagine a world that could be. And I think that's a part of it that doesn't really get talked about — that riots and looting are experienced as sort of joyous and liberatory.

Can I just say the Civil Rights Movement?

Also the way you simply group all blacks together is astonishing.

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