Conservatives caring about middle eastern people?! Wow we've come so fa- oh wait no, they don't really care, they just hate that it's the democrats doing it instead of themselves, okay carry on.

you mean voting ok for an offensive that bush transformed into a massacre ?
he regretted his vote in 2005.

so stick on farting lying cartoons

I think when it comes to foreign politics in America, there's this really weird two-way intraparty split right now.

On a scale from least hawkish/most isolationist to most hawkish/intervention-happy:
progressive Dems - Trump Republicans - establishment Dems - establishment Republicans.

might as well change your name to bluemaga the way you keep on defending biden
everyone knew how it would turn out in iraq.

Looks like you should have voted for Trump, you stupid beta cuck

i will paste this, maybe it will hep *some people*


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franceinfo: So this is the first military operation of the Biden administration. Is this choice symbolic?

Frédéric Encel: Yes. Not only is he symbolic, but very iconic at the same time of someone who joins the right wing of the Democratic Party. It’s a political family that is, in general, quite interventionist and hates the accusation of some Republicans of softness. Basically, throughout the 20th century, American Democratic presidents have been overwhelmingly more interventionist than Republican presidents. On the other hand, Biden has always said he will return to the 2015 Vienna nuclear deal with Iran, but certainly not allow Iran to deploy overly large forces in the region.

What is the message sent to Tehran?

It is a message of strength, that is to say, "We have the firm determination to return to the nuclear deal despite what our Israeli, Emirati and Saudi allies think. Besides, look, we are doing it. efforts and we are already lifting a number of sanctions. But do not think that ballistically and in terms of deploying your forces throughout the region, we are going to falter. " It is a message of strength which, contrary to what is often said, should probably allow an unblocking. Because in Iran we also understand the language of force.

What may be the coming response from Tehran?

Personally, I think the Iranians are not going to react militarily because they know that the balance of power is absolutely not in their favor. Indeed, they multiplied the sprains of an agreement, but at the same time, it was Donald Trump who, in May 2018, unilaterally left this agreement. So, up until then, they were pretty good at saying, "Wait, that's not being respected, so we are not respecting it either." With Biden who has made a commitment and who has already made gestures in favor of this agreement alongside Moscow, Beijing and the Europeans, we are dealing with a real will that the Iranians cannot fail to understand.

So is it possible to save this Vienna agreement on Iranian nuclear power?

I think this Vienna accord is going to be "restarted", even if we never got out of it completely. Moreover, I believe that the Iranians will try, as they did in 2015, to negotiate something that they do not yet have and that they probably never would have, in view of Israeli threats, which could look like a hundred billion dollars. This sum corresponds to the main part of what international sanctions have cost them since their official initiation, that is to say on January 1, 2007.
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Those 1.4k went to bomb the middle east again.

You guys just purchased a small part of a missile that detonated on someone's head

Anyway, after the trumpesque mammoth maneuvers in a porcelain store (tearing up an essential agreement to limit nuclear dissemination, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, plan to "pacify" the occupied territories), Biden cannot do worse than its predecessor. Trump sowed the seeds of future wars, which is no better than starting them like Bush Jr.

it is apparently just a signal, otherwise if it had been done to "screw the box", the strike would have taken place either in Iraq or in Syria, here it's just at the border point, Iraqi proxies under Iranian influence who have died , just three ammo trucks, the Biden signal is clear: every time the Americans are targeted, the pro Iranians will lose people and gear.
When israel hits it's inside Syria and if possible directly Iranian executives or technicians

Okay ?

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 26 2021 08:46pm