Which part of "He quit smoking cigarettes in the 80's" confuses you?

It doesn't matter to me what he had to say about smoking, frankly. The irony to me is that a person who quit smoking cigarettes, the #1 cause of lung cancer, 40 years ago, died from lung cancer.

He may as well have just continued chainsmoking. Even saying "A cigar a day" is an overstatement. He had the "occasional cigar". But for the cigar a day folks, Lung Cancer risk suffers only a minor increase. The primary risk of cigar smoking is oral cancer.

His take on the risks of smoking is on him. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and has the freedom to speak that opinion. Supporting free speech is NOT about supporting speech you agree with. It's about supporting speech you disagree with. Otherwise, there's no point to "free speech".



Ironically, the more the speech and entertainment of one side is suppressed, the more likelihood the vote will swing the other way in the next election.

During GWB's Presidency, when conservatives were screeching that you were "Unamerican" for questioning the Iraq war, questioning the need to kill random people, the need to collapse foreign governments, as opposed to seeking and destroying Bin Ladin, the flip went massive. Conservatives were losing house and senate seats, and in the end, Obama was voted in without much struggle. People don't like being silenced or censored, on EITHER side of the aisle, and the middle, us Independent folks, tend to favor the side that's seeing the highest level of censorship.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 17 2021 12:22pm

Fuck that guy.

stats on cigar smoking largely draws on people who dont inhale, for ex smokers, myself included, i know that ive inhaled plenty with the occasional cigar to get my fix in. i cant prove that Rush was the same but its besides the point.

just wondering tho, why are you always slinging so many strawmans? i didnt say anything about Rush not being allowed his opinions, or free speech generally. im just laughing that an pro tobacco national figure got lung cancer after saying smoking isnt proved to cause lung cancer. its funny, ironic, and funny. he's been only tangentially relevant for a long time, and if i had my choice i'd prefer he was alive with his lower jaw removed from mouth cancer or maybe had a robot voice because they had to remove his throat. that would be even more ironic and funny because he'd have to do radio by typing and letting a robot voice do his talking for him.

Later, when Rush went video, not just audio, you would occasionally see him smoke a cigar. He did not inhale.

I did not sling any strawman. I pointed out that your "guilt-free smoke" comment was nonsensical. Regardless of what he had to say regarding the risks of smoking, he quit some 40-odd years ago. So your point was lacking in content.

And regarding removing the jaw etc. etc. perhaps you should look up George Burns. It turns out that smoking, drinking, high fat diets, etc. etc. are not "Going to kill you." They simply increase your risk factors.

How often do we need to talk about the difference between risk mitigation and prevention? Smoking could be outlawed globally, all tobacco on the planet could be destroyed. It would not make lung or mouth cancer go away.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 17 2021 12:27pm

yep. we had an exhibit of this happen 7-8 posts in here;



of course it comes from a user who literally licks toilet bowls due to a jock-sniffing addiction

and mouth cancer can spread to the lungs. so whether his guilt free smoke was a cigarette or cigar doesnt matter unless you have some evidence of him developing lung cancer from another source that was non-smoking.

maybe u have some theories of how else he developed it? was it a soros targeted bomb of cancer causing oxy powder? maybe someone sprayed his mic with roundup?

it seems like you're into telling me what i can find funny? why are you restricting my free speech and prosecuting thought crimes?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 17 2021 12:30pm

Is the claim now that he actshually had mouth cancer? If so, perhaps you should speak the the doctors who diagnosed him. Question them, not me. Speaking of strawmanning...

Non-smokers who've never been around second hand smoke have come down with cancer, even at young ages. Are you now laying cancer, in it's entirety, at the feet of tobacco? Come on mate, you're better than this.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 17 2021 12:34pm

The media and hollywood have never represented the electorate. A small hysterical mob has always been in control of 90% of the media.

my claim is that he COULD have had mouth cancer, that migrated to his lungs, and there took greater effect than in his mouth and the doubling rate caused him to be diagnosed with fatal lung cancer before the original source mouth cancer even had a chance to be noticeable. a perfectly plausible idea, given that my great uncle who quit smoking in the early 1990s but continued to chew tobacco had that very thing happen and is now in the late stages.

but your last bit "lacks content", as you put it, given that i listed another source of a non-smoking cancer causing item, round up. but sure, strawman away.

and keep telling me what im allowed to laugh at, and that if it doesnt make enough sense to you that i shouldnt. you're basically a karen at a stand up show here. which i also find funny, im laughing at you.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 17 2021 12:41pm

Seeing some of the responses in this topic, I think I'll butcher a joke by Adam Corolla:



Rush, even given he said some stupid things, is notable that he did not give in or give up to the cancellation mob that seeks to silence all dissent. His firm stance that if you give them an inch, they will go for your throat was true then, is true now, and he shall be missed.