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Feb 15 2021 07:50pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 15 2021 07:45pm)
the fact that you're trying to misrepresent what i suggested are rivaling interpretations, as "insurmountable arguments" shows me i made a good choice. bad faith from the very start...


> implying your interpretations reach the level of rivalry. Oh, tell me more about bad faith:

Quote (fender @ Feb 15 2021 06:40pm)
very true. a majority of americans support stricter gun laws and opposes school shootings.


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Feb 15 2021 08:32pm
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well played Santara

There is something pretty gratifying about ignorant anti-gun activists denying the 2nd amendment supports the right to bear arms and getting called on it.
He is completely unprepared to substantiate his positions; he is only interested in arrogantly insulting people for having different/better views.

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Quote (cambovenzi @ 16 Feb 2021 09:32)
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well played Santara

There is something pretty gratifying about ignorant anti-gun activists denying the 2nd amendment supports the right to bear arms and getting called on it.
He is completely unprepared to substantiate his positions ; he is only interested in arrogantly insulting people for having different/better views.

why is/was gun confiscation is such a religion for people like goebbels, adolf, stalin, mao, and people like fender@d2jsp?
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Feb 15 2021 08:40pm
Quote (Santara @ 15 Feb 2021 19:21)
no bad actors



youcant make the bad actors argument.

Every single one of those school shootings were from bad actors taking advantage of the minimal Gun owning laws in the U.S

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Feb 15 2021 08:44pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 15 2021 07:21pm)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/02/14/statement-by-the-president-three-years-after-the-parkland-shooting/



Congress already has a nasty bill in the works, HR127:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127

The bill makes no bones about how far the radical left is willing to go to take away our rights:



...as if our license wasn't the 2A. They also want every firearm registered, because you can't have confiscation without first achieving registration.



Here, they want the entire database accessible by the general public. Because no bad actors would ever use such a database for a shopping list on where to find the guns they want.



...here they plan to keep people from seeking mental health care for fear of losing their weapons, and open up people's rights to censure by specious claims of "danger to self or others."

But wait, there's more!



Now you'd have to pay for the exercising of your rights.

There's so much more in this bill to unpack, like the fact that they want to enable a flurry of specious lawsuits against manufacturers so that they can bankrupt the industry.

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. ~ Karl Marx


It honestly just sounds like a distraction for the other AIDS policies that Biden is passing in the social arena.

There is no plausible way that this will ever pass.
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Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 15 2021 08:40pm)
youcant make the bad actors argument.

Every single one of those school shootings were from bad actors taking advantage of the minimal Gun owning laws in the U.S


Of course I can. A publicly searchable database of the locations of every firearm in the country means that <anyone> inclined to go looking for the weapon(s) they want can see who has what, where they live, and then surveil them, and enter the premises when unattended.

School shootings have virtually nothing to do with our gun laws and everything to do with mental healthcare.
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Feb 15 2021 09:56pm
Quote (Santara @ 16 Feb 2021 03:45)
Of course I can. A publicly searchable database of the locations of every firearm in the country means that <anyone> inclined to go looking for the weapon(s) they want can see who has what, where they live, and then surveil them, and enter the premises when unattended.

School shootings have virtually nothing to do with our gun laws and everything to do with mental healthcare.


yeah, because mental health is a US exclusive problem. the fact that school shootings (firearm suicide / accidents / mass shootings...) are not major issues in your peer country has nothing to do with the fact that they have stricter gun regulations, it's all just mental health...

my god, you gun nuts are so incredibly dishonest and deluded. do you have the slightest idea how ridiculous what you're saying there sounds? even with regular mandatory (and i'm sure as a 'libertarian' (lol), you're strictly against this) mental health checkups and treatment, shootings would remain a problem, so what mental healthcare policy specifically would prevent them? humour me. after all, you claim to be against school shootings (just not as much as you are against any kind of gun law, hence the idiotic conjecture and fearmongering concerning the proposed legislation)...
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Feb 15 2021 10:01pm
Australia literally ended all random mass shootings by implementing gun control, but its a mental health issue so it can never be fixed.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 15 2021 11:01pm)
Australia literally ended all random mass shootings by implementing gun control, but its a mental health issue so it can never be fixed.


Australia is a home invasion hell hole.

If you want to solve mental health issues just ban divorce and welfare. Literally 100% of mass shooters were raised by single moms.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 16 2021 03:03pm)
Australia is a home invasion hell hole.

If you want to solve mental health issues just ban divorce and welfare. Literally 100% of mass shooters were raised by single moms.


Lol, we get less home invasions than the us and have a LOT less gangs.
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