that's essentially the story of every kink. it starts off as simply a fun one off thing and for many people becomes a need to thing.

for every person who dabbles and gets on to another thing theres someone who becomes consumed by it. this is the perpetual story of kinks.

and sure for some its not a big deal, even if it consumes their sexual behavior, but for others they're sending women 300$ for used socks, paying some girls rent as a findom, or using a belt to choke themselves in a closet to get off. also in the perverted tantric circle there can be rampant drug use, drugs like meth can cause a lowered sensation and hours long sessions.

im not drawing on the HBO documentary solely, the topic of kinks gone wrong is something ive always been interested in and have listened to countless hours of documentaries, podcasts, etc.

tantric sex in the western sense is just a perversion of it's roots, as Endless said above. most of these "gurus" are really just depraved perverts who convince women to have sex with them for hours or organize orgies to satiate themselves because they're depraved. many of the women are traumatized as a result, these kind of guys can leave a wake of consensual victims behind them. like the porn industry many woman sign up for something they deeply regret soon after and run from forever more. some are snagged, sure.

Who the fuck cares and what business of it is anyone else’s what goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults.

As we all know to have been proven more oft than not the prudes who take issue with others sex lives often due so out of embarrassment for their own fetishes.

This post was edited by DrFaGgIt on Feb 15 2021 11:47am

did u grab 100k to cover ur Jere bet or get paid?

Still agree with you.

As a happily married man who happens to drink like a fish, I can tell everyone involved that a several hour session is not "good".

Sex has a purpose, and in the end, orgasm is that purpose. Holding off orgasm is not really okay, and ends up ruining the experience.

That being said, those who wish to utilize such practice? Good on them. It's not about what's right, wrong, or indifferent. What they choose to do? Their choice. Anyone who claims to participate in a liberal society yet police the bedroom should be ashamed of themselves.

Nothing wrong with that. Gotta be stupid AF to spend your whole life with the same woman at least if you're stuck in a relationship fuck a side chick.

I'd say for pretty much every kink there's at least a 100:1 ratio of people who try it and stop or maintain a healthy lifestyle compared to those who take it to a dangerous or harmful level.

Life is messy, and everybody ends up with things they regret down the line. That's just living. As long as it's consensual, and people aren't getting plied with drugs to maintain their interest, then I don't see it as even an abnormal human behavior. Maybe I'm a special snowflake but I've had sex for 60+ minutes at a time while drinking, and all parties involved were fine after.

I think one of the problems is that nobody makes documentaries about normal people doing these things. Even if only 0.5% of people are interested in a certain kink that's a LOOOOT of people, and most of those people aren't going to be involved in any kind of community doing any kind of kink. Even if your thing is multiple partners you probably aren't doing it in a systemic way where there's a big community behind you rotating people out.

Stop making sense!

Informed consent is a great thing. As long as both parties are doing what they want, (or more, if more involved) all's well.

I've always thought it was top cringe non-involved persons attempting to legislate others' bedrooms.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 15 2021 12:25pm

in any topic we focus on the problematic cases, some of these like in usage of crack cocaine are high by percentile. the drug snags people at a high rate. some like auto erotic choking its fairly small but the end result can be death or the starting desire for the kink can be based on traumatic experiences as a child. even if the number of continue down that path are small.

in the case of sexual kinks i think its important to take note of who it sticks with, and why. those that try BSDM and specifically hitting and like it and keep doing it tend to have had physical trauma in their child hood, whereas those who try it and dont do it again would be far less likely to have been hit as children. those who try tantric sex and become obsessed with it are more likely to be desensitized sex addicts than those who try it and dont continue. those who get off on paying findoms tend to be people largely ignored by women their whole lives, etc.

i dont think its a good practice to just say "its consensual, so that's ok as long as it's 2 adults" because consent can still be based in trauma and encounters can still be bittersweet brushes with ones own trauma in a mostly positive way. i dont put much store in therapy, but i dont think many therapists would agree that someone who was beat as a child getting off on it as an adult is an acceptable behavior.

Without addressing a specific point, it's well within a person's liberty to exercise their right to do as they please in their own home.

It's not a "concern" that they deal with such as BDSM, and does not require a case study. As long as they're happy and consensual in their acts.

Why are you so desperate to control other people?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 15 2021 12:55pm

in none of my posts does it say anything about legislating anything. nor do i even say that people should necessarily stop anything. im simply providing gray area in the idea that consent is the end all be all for what is acceptable behavior. not in a legal sense, but in the context of self harm. also recognizing the sexual kinks can lead to real harm that subverts the idea of consent, sure go choke yourself with a belt im not gonna advocate a bill that punishes you for it, just recognize it might kill you.