Quote (kenw @ 6 Feb 2021 11:49)

So, your whole argument is that major media outlets should lower their standards of vetting people/fact checking information thus essentially regress to TMZ's level of journalism with relative impunity. Spew as many damaging claims as possible, and if a company or person's image is royally tarnished, then you say oops my bad.. onto the next clickbait? :lol: . Oh bu-but, if it's a kid, then he has every right to sue! Fox News pushing a narrative about Dominion for months and subsequently their employees getting harassed is OK to you ? Officials have said that there has been no widespresd voter fraud, so why can Sandmann file a lawsuit but not Dominion?

Quote (said_aouita @ 6 Feb 2021 04:56)

Everything Trump touches and everyone who supports Trump , eventually dies , gets jailed or is just diminished if they are lucky . Dobbs just another in a long list of casualties.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 6 2021 02:54pm)

If a lawsuit is filed against a company, you're saying it should not be reported on until... What, it's determined to be legitimate or illegitimate?

In that case, I'd say Fox News can push a case against every other outlet that's reporting on lawsuits against Fox News that aren't yet litigated. Oh, that's not how it works?

Fox News reported on the details of lawsuits that were legally filed. That's called "news". And as lawsuits failed or were thrown out, they reported on that as well. That's called "news".

I don't treat Fox News different than CNN. CNN ALSO reported on those same lawsuits, but CNN pre-emptively said they thought those lawsuits were just "stageplay". The reporting was news, the narrative was opinion. Both reported the lawsuits, reporting from both could easily have harmfully impacted Dominion. Should Dominion sue them both? The bottom line is really whether or not you value the First Amendment or not. If the press has the right to report on current events, then it does, if it doesn't, it doesn't. That public opinion can turn against your company over the reporting is meaningless. That's the risk of operating in the "public space" as conservatives were reminded over and over regarding Parler. :)

Quote (kenw @ 6 Feb 2021 12:16)

Sure, they should sue if they deem anything defamatory and they feel they have chance of winning. CNN reporting about the contents of the lawsuit could be considered defamatory; however, chances of winning in court would be minuscule thus a waste of money. Stating Smarmatic and Dominion are the same entity, claiming Hugo Chavez founded the company , implying the machines are designed to alter votes in order to change the outcome of the election , etc are stuff worthy of dispute.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Feb 6 2021 04:47am)

When do we get to see the Dominion source code to make a judgement for ourselves? I could write a couple lines of code to invalidate millions of legit lines dedicated to a voting system. There could even be trivial error scenarios that throw out votes. Who knows what mess is in there. I've spent years digging through huge corporate code bases, they are nasty bug pits.

Seems reasonable to open-source it for transparency.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 6 2021 03:25pm)

Fox News, oddly, did not make the claim that Smartmatic and Dominion were the same, or that Hugo Chavez founded the company, or any of that. That was alleged by Powell. Fox News reported her allegations and cited them as her allegations.

This is what I'm saying, you're holding a true double standard here. 4 years of "Russiagate" nonsense that found no collusion or election fraud or foreign interference in the process at all, and you still think trolls like Maddow are just fine. Fox News reports on lawsuits and allegations by those bringing those suits, and suddenly they're "crossing the line"?

Hell, I still remember 5 minutes ago, when, WHILE REPORTING the allegations of Powell, Tucker Carlson told his audience that he reached out to Powell to try to get some evidence of the allegations, and Powell refused to provide any AND backed out of an appearance on his show. He was lambasted over the fact AND his ratings tanked, and you your very self were laughing about it.

What'd Fox News do again? :huh:

Quote (kenw @ 6 Feb 2021 12:31)

The only thing that I'm saying is you shouldnt deny someone's right to sue for slander/defamation. If Trump's family felt wronged then they should absolutely sue and make their case to the judge . I thought Mueller investigation was a wild goose chase after the first couple of months of leaks, therefore yeah, Trump should have definitely filed a lawsuit.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Feb 6 2021 02:28pm)

As if you code.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ Feb 6 2021 07:47am)

When do we get to see the Dominion source code to make a judgement for ourselves? .