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Terrorist acts that should have been met with prepared, deadly force.
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Quote (MizzouFTW @ Jan 7 2021 12:30pm)
Terrorist acts that should have been met with prepared, deadly force.


you'd figure that about the capitol during such an important session

i guess the US is up for grabs boys :lol:
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Quote (BasedGoff @ Jan 7 2021 02:11pm)
Peaceful? I wasn’t aware that breaking into a secured area by shattering glass and throwing chairs was peaceful.. heh. I forgot peaceful people assault over 14 police officers.. heh.. oh and I totally forgot how you could mistake the pipe bombs that had to be cleared as a peace offering and a token of appreciation 🤗

Now apply that same level of scrutiny to the riots earlier this year

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Now apply that same level of scrutiny to the riots earlier this year

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/101/CNN_Mostly_Peaceful_Protests_Banner.jpg



I don’t recall ever saying that these BLM protestors were peaceful, nor do they have anything to do with this current situation
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Jan 7 2021 02:37pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 7 2021 02:34pm)
Now apply that same level of scrutiny to the riots earlier this year

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/101/CNN_Mostly_Peaceful_Protests_Banner.jpg


What about Kenosha? Who cares?
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Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 7 2021 02:34pm)
Now apply that same level of scrutiny to the riots earlier this year

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/101/CNN_Mostly_Peaceful_Protests_Banner.jpg


camp fires are really calming, im sure thats what they meant
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Jan 7 2021 02:41pm
Quote (thundercock @ 7 Jan 2021 14:59)
Unfortunately, that's what Americans voted for.

fair enough

Quote (thesnipa @ 7 Jan 2021 15:15)
Lindsay "yes im a boy ignore my name and pitch of voice" Graham correctly pointed out that we dodged a bullet. even tho 100/100 of these who busted in were legitimately not terrorists in the real sense it only takes one and a bomb or whatever else easily could have been planted and set off.

this was the talk of the alt right social media for almost a month now, parler and elsewhere. people kind of though "ok, yeah, sure, just like u guys stormed area 51". but all it would have taken is some masked real legit terrorist with a back pack bomb and we'd no longer have a senate. the room, the people, doesnt matter. real damage could 100% have been done. we're lucky in retrospect. there's a reason that left, right, and center past and present senators are appalled at how easy people got in, and its not just the pens in their desks.

the capitol (and entire capital in a larger sense) is supposed to be accessible to the public. our elected officials are supposed to be accessible to their constituents. they are elected representatives not rock stars (unfortunately most of society, myself included, have permited this blending of the lines). those are our buildings; they just work there. almost every building is still fairly easily accessible even with all the increased security measures since 9/11 and the patriot act. storming it is definitely beyond the pale, a more measured approach would be better (ie: chanting and kneeling). but precedent has been set by ‘peaceful protestors’ over the past 4 years. in fact theres almost a damn playbook one can follow at this point.

for sure damage could be done. this is a daily possibility. the capitol was on fire in parts for days in this past summer with some of those very senators praising the mob’s efforts. a very nimby approach. only a few have been consistent in their condemnation and that should be applauded.

for safety (heh) we could go to a militarized capital with two armed soldiers on every corner and an entire unit guarding entry to buildings. i dont want that

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fair enough


the capitol (and entire capital in a larger sense) is supposed to be accessible to the public. our elected officials are supposed to be accessible to their constituents. they are elected representatives not rock stars (unfortunately most of society, myself included, have permited this blending of the lines). those are our buildings; they just work there. almost every building is still fairly easily accessible even with all the increased security measures since 9/11 and the patriot act. storming it is definitely beyond the pale, a more measured approach would be better (ie: chanting and kneeling). but precedent has been set by ‘peaceful protestors’ over the past 4 years. in fact theres almost a damn playbook one can follow at this point.

for sure damage could be done. this is a daily possibility. the capitol was on fire in parts for days in this past summer with some of those very senators praising the mob’s efforts. a very nimby approach. only a few have been consistent in their condemnation and that should be applauded.

for safety (heh) we could go to a militarized capital with two armed soldiers on every corner and an entire unit guarding entry to buildings. i dont want that


Id like to point out, that yesterday it wasn't business as usual at the capitol. I would say there were a legit security concerns as it didn't look like the crowd came over to talk to their representatives, but to disrupt the counting process .

This post was edited by nomadwgk on Jan 7 2021 02:53pm
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fair enough


the capitol (and entire capital in a larger sense) is supposed to be accessible to the public. our elected officials are supposed to be accessible to their constituents. they are elected representatives not rock stars (unfortunately most of society, myself included, have permited this blending of the lines). those are our buildings; they just work there. almost every building is still fairly easily accessible even with all the increased security measures since 9/11 and the patriot act. storming it is definitely beyond the pale, a more measured approach would be better (ie: chanting and kneeling). but precedent has been set by ‘peaceful protestors’ over the past 4 years. in fact theres almost a damn playbook one can follow at this point.

for sure damage could be done. this is a daily possibility. the capitol was on fire in parts for days in this past summer with some of those very senators praising the mob’s efforts. a very nimby approach. only a few have been consistent in their condemnation and that should be applauded.

for safety (heh) we could go to a militarized capital with two armed soldiers on every corner and an entire unit guarding entry to buildings. i dont want that


the point of having only a few buildings on a hard lock down is to not have the need for guards on every corner and the ability to leave the capital itself open, and even many parts of buildings open to the public in non-covid times.

my capital building in WI is open to the public 99% of the time, u can walk in and see most of the building. and its a beauty. but to expect i could walk into Evers office or expect to be able to sit in on an active senate proceeding is silly. we would have never lasted as a country until now if we had an open senate, too many people would have been shot.


they aren't our buildings, they're the federal govt's. the point of this distinction is that the federal govt isnt a person, even if swamp demons stay there decades too long. it belongs to no one, because it belongs to everyone. and when it belongs to everyone u cant do something to it unless u get everyone's ok. well we elect people to speak for us, so its theirs, and by extension ours.


to be quite frank the narrative that this is somehow public property, even an active session of congress doing the EC vote, is one of the most hair brained ideas yet that ive heard. this reads to me as totally batshit fucking insane. the ramifications are insanity. everyone will die.

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Quote (proccy @ Jan 7 2021 03:34pm)
you'd figure that about the capitol during such an important session

i guess the US is up for grabs boys :lol:


all this proves is that we shouldn't of pussied out and we should have stormed area 51. If its this fuckin easy.
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