Quote (Skinned @ Dec 18 2020 06:28am)

And they're the smarter of the two. Rough times.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 18 Dec 2020 15:13)

If you put sensible health measures in place you get to open schools.

Fuck you guys are bad at reading when politics happens.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 18 2020 08:50am)

Biden is specifically talking about "a majority of schools" (i.e. not nearly all schools) being open "toward the end of the first 100 days" (i.e. he expects a majority of schools to be closed for the longest time of these 100 days). And he adds the qualifier "... health measures that we all follow". It's clear that we wont get anywhere near 100% compliance with whatever rules and measures they put in place.

Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 18 2020 05:37am)

Isn't it a libertarian wet dream to eliminate public schools

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 18 2020 10:10am)

So he wants to open schools and take steps to make that safe.

That explains why you guys are looking so desparate. It's hard to argue against a cautious evidence based approach.

You guys look really pathetic blaming Biden instead of blaming the states that took forever to even do mask mandates.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 18 2020 09:35am)

Mask mandates is false hope. California has some of the strongest lockdown measures and their cases per 100 k are higher than almost all states that didn't mandate masks.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/01/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Literally, their cases are double of Florida per 100k

If only you were a man of science and could follow data instead of having double-digit IQ takes like masks being the reason the spread is happening.

Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 17 2020 11:32pm)

Lockdowns have a terrible impact on student outcomes. There is simply no excuse for keeping children at home. It's anti-science, anti-education, and anti-public health.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 18 2020 10:47am)

Its almost like you have to control for more than one variable amd possibly implement more than one policy.

I do love how the guy who fails at statistics 101 concepts calls the guy who manages a science lab anti science.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 18 2020 10:23am)

Which variables are you controlling that led you to the conclusion that masks mandates are the reason some states are doing worse or better?

Do you even have any data to support this assertion?

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I report the result of various studies on the effectiveness of lockdowns; except for a few, most of these studies report that the lockdowns were highly successful in saving hundreds of thousands of lives. Since the average death rate from Covid-19 is 2.5%, these results imply that somewhere between 10 to 20 million less infections resulted from this unnatural experiment.

Examination of the contradiction between the observed reality of 40 million cases, and the experimental reality of lockdown research, is the purpose of my above-mentioned paper. We replicate the variety of tests available in the literature and add the following important test of lockdowns—a before and after comparison for over 150 countries, and for one, two, and three months from the date of lockdowns.No matter what the test, the dominant result is that not only lockdowns were not effective, but that, in a large majority of cases, lockdowns were counter-productive. i.e., led to more infections and deaths, than would have been the case with no lockdowns. My analysis stops in end-July and, therefore, ignores the post-July second-wave of infections. If these data are included, the fate of lockdowns would be a lot worse.