Quote (Santara @ Dec 5 2020 04:21pm)

You told me how someone you followed got shadow banned for a little while, like it doesn't happen to hard rightists and libertarians.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 04:46pm)

How he got shadowbanned, how his videos are never recommended, and that's pretty much the same for most of the channels I follow. Meanwhile it's super easy to fall down the far-right YouTube rabbit hole that dozens of people have made videos doing that exact thing and YouTube has had to actively respond to it and correct their algorithm to stop it from being so easy

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 04:02pm)

Man I love how people go out of their way to pick one thing I said and pretend there wasn't multiple points presented.



Yeah, because right wing channels are far more promoted than left wing ones, and that's apparent from the subscriber numbers, youtube recommendation trends, etc. etc.

There's dozens of videos where people "go down the YouTube rabbit hole" where people make a new account under a VPN and click videos to see how easy it is to get to the right wing conspiracy part of YouTube. It's really obvious how much YouTube promoted this stuff until they were actively called out for it.

I'm super left, as you know, and even I have to actively avoid YouTube's algorithm recommending me right wing content. For some reason just yesterday I had like 5 Rubin Report videos in my feed, a channel I've never interacted with and actively avoid because of how incredibly stupid Dave Rubin is.

Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 5 2020 05:26pm)

Alex jones was a wacko spreading dangerous lies that harmed victims of a shooting incident and deserved to be banished from youtube

Shapiro and Peterson are still doing alright

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 03:46pm)

How he got shadowbanned, how his videos are never recommended, and that's pretty much the same for most of the channels I follow. Meanwhile it's super easy to fall down the far-right YouTube rabbit hole that dozens of people have made videos doing that exact thing and YouTube has had to actively respond to it and correct their algorithm to stop it from being so easy

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 21 2020 09:31am)

Steering the national conversation has always happened. Why is this different?

(I'm generally in favor of more strict enforcement of anti-trust laws. I'm giving you a chance to make your case on this specific issue)


If they opened the source algorithm it would be all but useless. Modern algorithms for huge projects like google are mostly AI, which can't be deciphered even by those who created it because it is dependent on the training process and available data. It's a scientific process in itself to get any insight into why an AI makes its decisions.

Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 5 2020 05:26pm)

Alex jones was a wacko spreading dangerous lies that harmed victims of a shooting incident and deserved to be banished from youtube

Shapiro and Peterson are still doing alright

Quote (Santara @ Dec 5 2020 05:16pm)

Pick one dot jpg

Quote (fuzzy159 @ Dec 5 2020 04:50pm)

So your reasoning for thinking this is that you know a far left activist that was censored and you don't know any far right activists that have been censored....

:huh:

Also the left being concerned with censorship all of the sudden is baffling.

Quote (krackprophet @ Dec 5 2020 03:26pm)

Censorship wise youtube will shit on anyone for any reason they please since there is no real drawback. People won't stop using em.

Jordan Peterson has crazy engagement with a high amount of users watching long videos to completion. If most of your recommendations are non-controversial its seeking engagement of some sort I'd assume.

I also don't see or hear of much long form (1+ hour) leftwing content on youtube. If you have a few I'm actually looking for more.

This ancap/anti-sjw channel I watch got banned not long ago for a while and they have never gotten monetized.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 5 2020 10:53pm)

It's hard to find long-form leftist content on YouTube because they tend to get shut down in the algorithm far more than right wingers. I know a lot of news-type shows that have long videos of content but it's jumping topic to topic.

The best by far on leftist youtube is Philosophy Tube, but his videos are rarely if ever over an hour, although they're really high quality since he only posts once a month. Another one is Knowing Better, who is similar but different subject matter.