Quote (NotHomerSimpson @ 5 Dec 2020 19:35)

I fear people like you. People who have placed their faith in man, you poor ignorant fool. Shit will never change itself.
Humanity will never change, the individual must take an initiative

Quote (Bazi @ Dec 5 2020 01:39pm)

The largest hurdles for growth of the middle class is lack of market involvement, the major catalyst for higher socioeconomic classes

The largest hurdle that often sets them back is healthcare costs, which remain the number one reason for a bankruptcy PRE covid.

Both of these hurdles have lead to big body blows this year to the middle class

During the March dip the average person who held a 401k withdrew ~$15,000, near the low, missing out on ridiculous returns. Medical bankruptcies at all time highs. The middle class has been gutted this year. Until you target specific measures that hurt this group the gulf will continue to widen. ^thesnipa add to the trucking industry going the dodo way likely within the next decade, and we will get closer to a merger of low and middle socioeconomic classes as the divide grows

Agree People are angry and they don’t know what to be angry about. The mainstream voices in both political parties cloud the actual issues. Start at what is directly impacting this class and what is being done about it.

Quote (NotHomerSimpson @ Dec 5 2020 12:45pm)

Good points. Too bad the hill were sliding down is so steep now. Idk if we will have an "after covid". I suspect that whatever is the glue thats holding all this together is melting rn. And after that. any of the many countries that would love to take a dip in our waters will.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 5 2020 01:41pm)

you have zero argument, only that smelly orifice you are pretending to use as a "mouth".

NO U.


One party, slowly penetrating your body:

https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/AP20314637667262.jpg

Quote (Bazi @ Dec 5 2020 01:50pm)

Like frenchy said, whether you accept it, the only chance the middle class has is a shift left. There is no objective argument around this

The middle class shoots themselves in both feet by being full of scared one issue voters like guns, religion, abortions, etc and will happily vote against their financial interests with the delusion they are protesting these “rights”. Guns are never going away. Abortions are never going away and late term abortions are largely a myth. Many in the Middle class fall too easily for these traps.

Quote (NotHomerSimpson @ Dec 5 2020 12:52pm)

I disagree, there is a third option, the first being voting blue then voting red. the third being not even voting but rather taking up ones civil duty.

Quote (NotHomerSimpson @ Dec 5 2020 12:59pm)

People will always have choice. That not being to just depend on Blue. Its actually hilarious to me that people that it is applicable. Democracy should not be centered in one party. Nor should it be about the lesser of two evils. I would genuinely rather have Trump and watch everything burn. Because if he were to have won then I am sure that everyone would be going apeshit right about now.
And democracy is a bird all of you should know, is a bird and cannot fly with 1 wing.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS remember that when all the peaceful revolts are gone. Violence is the only revolt left.

Quote (Bazi @ Dec 5 2020 02:03pm)

It seems your more fixated on romantic notions as opposed to realistic incremental progress, for the middle class. This is a view shared by many and why the middle class is ultimately doomed.

Quote (Bazi @ Dec 5 2020 01:58pm)

What is taking up ones civil duty going to do with the education loan burden the middle class is haunted by daily

What is taking up ones civil duty going to do with health care costs the middle class is burdened by

Your approach is vague, and will have anecdotal results. Systemic problems require systemic solutions. By alleviating these financial pressure allows this class to own properties and make investments that lead to financial stability, and a true middle class. for however long it lasts until it’s time for Wall-E to shit everywhere