Quote (IceMage @ Nov 14 2020 09:41pm)

Watching this stream and seeing the vast majority of people not masked...

Even if I were a diehard right-populist who hated trade, immigration, globalization, traditional American foreign policy, etc.... I couldn't support any movement so insistent on a policy of spreading a deadly virus as some statement of opposition to ideological enemies.

It's a clear indicator on how the views of these people are not informed by evidence whatsoever.

Theoretically there could exist a right-wing populist movement not supportive of such ridiculousness... but it doesn't exist. And that's an indictment of right-wing populism in general.

Quote (Ghot @ Nov 15 2020 01:42pm)

Yeah, uh... yeah, that's a good way to explain Biden's lack of supporters. LMFAO







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts7i6lkXaeo

Quote (proccy @ Nov 14 2020 08:47pm)

cant believe this is still happening and getting crazier and crazier

https://dlive.tv/BakedAlaska

i chose this stream to share because you are going to see the ugliest parts of the movement from within

plenty of others available out there as well

Quote (Ghot @ Nov 14 2020 07:27pm)

Yeah. It must be rough having to admit to yourselves, that Biden couldn't get "tens of thousands" of supporters, in one place... during his whole campaign.




https://i.imgur.com/ucRKalj.gif

Quote (Mangix @ Nov 14 2020 08:52pm)

BakedAlaska is such a cringe lord. That aside people are wildin out. Heard atleast 3 ppl just got stabbed.

Quote (IceMage @ Nov 14 2020 09:41pm)

Watching this stream and seeing the vast majority of people not masked...

Even if I were a diehard right-populist who hated trade, immigration, globalization, traditional American foreign policy, etc.... I couldn't support any movement so insistent on a policy of spreading a deadly virus as some statement of opposition to ideological enemies.

It's a clear indicator on how the views of these people are not informed by evidence whatsoever.

Theoretically there could exist a right-wing populist movement not supportive of such ridiculousness... but it doesn't exist. And that's an indictment of right-wing populism in general.

Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 14 2020 10:08pm)

By this logic we can disqualify practically every modern political movement.

Democratic dogma on race is at odds with basic facts, but yet that hasn't stopped the Democratic party from making every Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, and George Floyd a new standard bearer for the cause. The 1619 project has been roundly criticized by historians, and that hasn't stopped left-allied media from championing it in schools. It was once bipartisan to say that burning down state and federal property was criminal behavior, and yet one party considers it "peaceful protest".

Quote (IceMage @ Nov 14 2020 10:19pm)

Uh... no. Ideological movements holding a flawed view of history is kind of standard territory. Whether it's the flawed history of the 1619 project or the naïve view of history proposed by right-wing nationalists. That's not equivalent to political movements devoted to denying the current reality of a deadly pandemic.

That's my whole point. This sort of nonsense goes completely beyond the standard debate about history or ideas. It turns something weird that goes beyond that.

Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 14 2020 07:29pm)

Was the history taught in schools pre-1619 that of "right wing nationalists"? Or was it simply "history" before Democratic party acolytes got their hands on it?

There isn't a significant degree of difference between people who see burning cities and think "what a mostly peaceful protest!" and people who believe the government is out to get them. The right believes its the people in government, and the left believes its crypto-fascists who aren't actually in power but somehow controlling everything behind the scenes. I'll leave it to you to figure out which is more or less realistic.

Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 14 2020 10:29pm)

Was the history taught in schools pre-1619 that of "right wing nationalists"? Or was it simply "history" before Democratic party acolytes got their hands on it?

There isn't a significant degree of difference between people who see burning cities and think "what a mostly peaceful protest!" and people who believe the government is out to get them. The right believes its the people in government, and the left believes its crypto-fascists who aren't actually in power but somehow controlling everything behind the scenes. I'll leave it to you to figure out which is more or less realistic.