yeah hope it backfires and puts term limits for swamp Congress demons front and center

term limits in Congress might be the best thing to happen to American politics

Lol.

by far imo the greatest blind side to the check and balances the founding fathers created.

the only way to limit the power in terms of time served of congress is to get congress to vote in term limits for themselves.

it has no constitutional implications, so scotus is powerless. and it has far too much involved for the President to do anything other than send his VP to lobby for it and/or be a deciding vote. very little juice.

i'd need to re-read the Fed papers to see if any mention of this was in there, i frankly cant remember.

I could see it being challenged since it might count as interference with states rights to hold elections in the way they see fit.

I’m ok with term limits but nothing <15-20 years

Not everyone who makes it to 80+ goes dementia free

interesting idea but i dont think it would fly. some Blue state can try tho, i could see Oregon or Washington trying.

makes me wonder if someone could get around it by jumping house to senate, or even house district to house district.

but even then the SCOTUS would say states could/couldnt do it, it wouldnt be made into federal law by that process.

It's such a brazen overreach by the legislative branch.

Libertarians & 2nd amendment proponents constantly cry about gun issues, not giving an inch because of the slippery slope but an overreach like the above is a good example of them actually being right.

This is why I'm fairly aggressive against libertarians, Andrew Yang, Sanders, etc. People like fender will shit on me for being a shill, but at the end of the day, EVERYTHING in our system is about consensus. That doesn't mean that their ideas are necessarily bad, it's just that discussing these things as it pertains to actionable policy is a waste of everyone's time.

Fundamentally, I believe that elections are the best term limits and that hard term limits are the wrong tool for our problems. I find that significantly increasing the size of Congressional staff would be an effective bulwark against lobbyists and the perceived anti-democratic interests they push. Gerrymandering is obviously an issue because most elections aren't competitive. It'd be interesting to look at voting scores of Congressmen from states that have independent commissions to see if these have any substantial effect. Really, ranked choice voting and/or multi-member districts are the panacea for this sort of thing but I think that's going to take several decades to implement. We'd be better served focusing on state level reforms I think.

Another thing to consider is why SCOTUS is even political. This should be by far the most boring branch of government yet people are obsessed with it. I think it becomes political because it allows certain issues to bypass the democratic process. Anytime there is an undemocratic ruling, it creates this positive feedback loop of rage because it seems "unfair." Frankly, the judiciary committee should probably just make a pact to cool things down and ensure that they vote "yes" strictly based on merit.

i agree in broad strokes with all of this.

i'd offer an explanation for the SCOTUS politicization tho.

1. recent civil rights desicions and historical ones are SCOTUS accomplishments. Brown v Board all the way to gay marriage. HRC/Obama were against gay marriage 10 years before the SCOTUS greenlit it

2. with an increasingly gridlocked congress and far swinging pendulum executive branch the SCOTUS becomes the branch we look to for tangible change. it's either nothing from congress, EOs from POTUS that will be unwritten on the pendulum swinging, or unbreakable precedent from SCOTUS. short sighted people cheer on EOs, everyone else wants the scotus to frame the future.