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Jul 22 2020 06:09pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 22 2020 08:08pm)
If Obama had done this exactly the same you would have had a stroke.




If Obama had done something like this, it would have probably been for the opposite reason. He would have sent the camo boys in to "force" the states to "allow" the rioting.
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Jul 22 2020 06:12pm
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If Obama had done something like this, it would have probably been for the opposite reason. He would have sent the camo boys in to "force" the states to "allow" the rioting.


Where was Obama ever soft on crime?
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Jul 22 2020 06:13pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 23 Jul 2020 00:52)
It's extremely clear that moving troops like that is pleasing the most sadistic part of trump cultists: Nazis.


Says the guy living in a country where over 10000 heavily armed military and gendarmerie forces had to be deployed to all big cities to keep its domestic islamists and rioters in check:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Sentinelle

This operation has been going on for the past 5.5 years and was accompanied by a years-long state of emergency which was extended 3 times until it most of its provisions were permanently enshrined in law. And when the Yellow Vest protests got rowdy, even more forces had to be deployed to French streets to prevent a civil war.
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Jul 22 2020 06:15pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 22 2020 07:02pm)
Portland has had rioters destroying property for 50 days running. Police station burnt down, courthouse defaced, etc.

The mayor has been letting it happen and telling police to stand down...

So Trump sent some camo-boi's over in unmarked cars to arrest people that were caught on film committing felonies.

Its legal because public arrest for a felony doesn't require a warrant and the insurrection act gives the executive branch the justification to do it.


Not to mention:
https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/133.245

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A federal officer may arrest a person:

(a)For any crime committed in the federal officer’s presence if the federal officer has probable cause to believe the person committed the crime.

(b)For any felony or Class A misdemeanor if the federal officer has probable cause to believe the person committed the crime.

(c)When rendering assistance to or at the request of a law enforcement officer, as defined in ORS 414.805 (Liability of individual for medical services received while in custody of law enforcement officer).

(d)When the federal officer has received positive information in writing or by telephone, telegraph, teletype, radio, facsimile machine or other authoritative source that a peace officer holds a warrant for the person’s arrest.

(2)The federal officer shall inform the person to be arrested of the federal officer’s authority and reason for the arrest.

(3)In order to make an arrest, a federal officer may use physical force as is justifiable and authorized of a peace officer under ORS 161.235 (Use of physical force in making an arrest or in preventing an escape), 161.239 (Use of deadly physical force in making an arrest or in preventing an escape) and 161.245 (“Reasonable belief” described).

(4)(a) A federal officer making an arrest under this section without unnecessary delay shall take the arrested person before a magistrate or deliver the arrested person to a peace officer.

(b)The federal officer retains authority over the arrested person only until the person appears before a magistrate or until the law enforcement agency having general jurisdiction over the area in which the arrest took place assumes responsibility for the person.

(5)A federal officer when making an arrest for a nonfederal offense under the circumstances provided in this section shall have the same immunity from suit as a state or local law enforcement officer.

(6)A federal officer is authorized to make arrests under this section upon certification by the Department of Public Safety Standards and Training that the federal officer has received proper training to enable that officer to make arrests under this section. [1981 c.808 §3; 1993 c.254 §2; 1995 c.79 §48; 1997 c.853 §34]


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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 22 2020 07:08pm)
If Obama had done this exactly the same you would have had a stroke.


Which part?
Because Obama sent federal agents out to assist local law enforcement all the time. So did every president in living memory. Its what they do.
Its routine

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 22 2020 06:16pm
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Jul 22 2020 06:15pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 22 2020 05:02pm)
Portland has had rioters destroying property for 50 days running. Police station burnt down, courthouse defaced, etc.

The mayor has been letting it happen and telling police to stand down...

So Trump sent some camo-boi's over in unmarked cars to arrest people that were caught on film committing felonies.

Its legal because public arrest for a felony doesn't require a warrant and the insurrection act gives the executive branch the justification to do it.



The police drew First Blood. They shouldn't be surprised when they get Rambo'd.
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Jul 22 2020 06:17pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 22 2020 08:12pm)
Where was Obama ever soft on crime?




When all the crap started in Minneapolis, I posted clips, etc., of Obama subtly encouraging it.
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Jul 22 2020 06:18pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 22 2020 07:12pm)
Where was Obama ever soft on crime?


When he said that he would not enforce the law against a few million violators

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Jul 22 2020 06:19pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 22 2020 05:15pm)



Obama sent federal agents out to assist local law enforcement all the time.



And Republicans supported and endorsed the people who shot back at the federal government and had snipers on them at all times.
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#29
Jul 22 2020 07:13pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 23 Jul 2020 02:13)
Says the guy living in a country where over 10000 heavily armed military and gendarmerie forces had to be deployed to all big cities to keep its domestic islamists and rioters in check:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Sentinelle

This operation has been going on for the past 5.5 years and was accompanied by a years-long state of emergency which was extended 3 times until it most of its provisions were permanently enshrined in law. And when the Yellow Vest protests got rowdy, even more forces had to be deployed to French streets to prevent a civil war.


Operation Sentinel is a French army operation deployed in the aftermath of the attacks of January 7, 8 and 9, 2015, to deal with the terrorist threat on national territory and protect sensitive "points" of the territory. It was reinforced during the attacks of November 13, 2015 in Île-de-France.

You are completely out of subject, worse: you are amalgaming poor american areas, colored, with islamists.
Let me decorate you: grand pard trump reich cross.
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#30
Jul 22 2020 07:50pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 22 2020 06:17pm)
When all the crap started in Minneapolis, I posted clips, etc., of Obama subtly encouraging it.


You didn't answer his question and then proceeded to insert your own analysis of Obama's remarks around and incident outside his presidency.

He actually had a professional statement in my opinion in contrast to the babaling buffoon you won't condem.

Perhaps the current governments actions are likley to lead to further distrust and only stoke the fires resulting in a repeating cycle until an administration change.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 22 2020 07:54pm
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