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Quote (proccy @ Jul 6 2020 06:08pm)
obviously, but one can't (or(i hope we all agree) shouldn't) exist without the other.


Then your original comment makes no sense.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 6 2020 06:09pm)
Then your original comment makes no sense.


nit picking, i see

try to read into the spirit of my comment which concurs precisely with the one before this. one can't (or shouldn't) exist without the other.
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Policy without some mode to enforce it is meaningless. People pay their taxes because they know the irs will come after them if they don’t not because of some deep philosophical conclusion it’s the right thing to do.

And there’s a ton of salt in my MBA group chat. Good portion of them are international students the other 70% hate trump passionately so yeah...

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nit picking, i see

try to read into the spirit of my comment which concurs precisely with the one before this. one can't (or shouldn't) exist without the other.


It's not nitpicking at all. You had some weird audacity to label my post as dumb. This is what you said:

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Abolish ICE = Abolishing immigration policy. Which is the dumbest thing I've heard in at least 24 hours in pard


ICE wasn't formed until 2003. America clearly had an immigration policy prior to 2003.

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It's not nitpicking at all. You had some weird audacity to label my post as dumb. This is what you said:



ICE wasn't formed until 2003. America clearly had an immigration prior to 2003.


and enforcement to go along with it.

so okay, maybe you can abolish ICE but there will be something to take it's place called something else. if the idea is to abolish enforcement, then the law can't be enforced :P making it 100% obsolete

very few people are calling for full abolition. but i do hear more and more every day. and you didn't really call for it, it's just the title of the thread
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Jul 6 2020 07:18pm
Quote (proccy @ Jul 6 2020 06:16pm)
and enforcement to go along with it.

so okay, maybe you can abolish ICE but there will be something to take it's place called something else. if the idea is to abolish enforcement, then the law can't be enforced :P making it 100% obsolete

very few people are calling for full abolition. but i do hear more and more every day. and you didn't really call for it, it's just the title of the thread


Then perhaps taking a step back and instead of being a General Chat reactionary and labeling a post as dumb, you may find greater nuance.

Just a thought!
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Then perhaps taking a step back and instead of being a General Chat reactionary and labeling a post as dumb, you may find greater nuance.

Just a thought!


I didn't quote what you said, was just reacting to the title and making my point clear.

Nuance.......
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It's not nitpicking at all. You had some weird audacity to label my post as dumb. This is what you said:



ICE wasn't formed until 2003. America clearly had an immigration policy prior to 2003.




It's nitpicking. Since 2003 we've NEEDED an enforcement arm of the immigration policies. These days you can't have one without the other.

What year was it... 2018? We had almost 100k supposed refugees per MONTH. We would have been over run, without ICE. The entire plan of those refugees was to over load the system we had in place.



/e The post IS dumb. The United States would not survive w/o and enforcement arm to the immigration laws.

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It's nitpicking. Since 2003 we've NEEDED an enforcement arm of the immigration policies. These days you can't have one without the other.

What year was it... 2018? We had almost 100k supposed refugees per MONTH. We would have been over run, without ICE. The entire plan of those refugees was to over load the system we had in place.



/e The post IS dumb. The United States would not survive w/o and enforcement arm to the immigration laws.


If the post is dumb, then you can just not waste your time by replying.

Thanks and have a nice day!
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If the post is dumb, then you can just not waste your time by replying.

Thanks and have a nice day!


the idea of full abolition is really dumb. if that's not what you meant, fine. if it is, you're dumb.
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