So... only old people should wear masks..

i mean, lol at the idea that pre-1980s mental health programs were effective at combating anything. they largely destroyed asylums where mentally ill people were shunted off to die while hopped up on crazy pills.

regan ending these programs was bad, because they could have been built on instead of scrapped, but they werent propping up the ghetto.

I'd say they were more effective than putting them on the street and letting the police handle them.

Still, there were more defunded than mental health services. He reduced spending on food stamps for one, and private charity could never hope to fill the gap that was left.

you see a chicken, i see an egg. those programs were starting to inflate in costs. not relative to now, as they're insanely expensive compared to costs in the 1970s, but from what they had seen up to that point. outsourcing and corporate greed had begun to eat the middle class, by the 90s it was on its last leg, and today its just dying a slow death.

in any case the date i chose was arbitrary, i was referencing a time period of about industrial revolution to about the 1980s. when any person in a town could get a job that wanted one, even if it was unsafe and/or dirty, up to the point when that was no longer true. in this era charity did a great job of filling in gaps, after this era the gaps were too many.

I agree that automation exacerbated the problem, my contention was specifically saying that private charity filled the gaps pre-1980 when federal programs were the main thing that filled the gap at that time.

your assertion has 2 issues that i can see as glaring:

1. pre 1980 programs were shit, and you're referencing them as filling gaps when in reality they were shit.

2. you aren't including the church in mental health issues, when counseling in the church has been done forever. marital counseling, substance abuse, etc. shit, AA itself is a christian organization.

the church is the private charity organization that facilitated nearly all of the help in the era im referencing. try to plug your nose and realize that the church has been feeding, clothing, and counseling people for hundreds of years in the US. since before food stamps were a thing, before programs existed to give kids clothes like coats for kids, since before public counseling existed in schools, before asylums existed in the public realm churches ran them, etc.

but, and this is my point, we're now in a place where the church definitely cant solve this, going directly against libertarian doctrine that we can fix it privately. and also that the federal govt will not fix it in the long run either, due to the problem getting worse year after year and the inability to convince the population that it should be done. basically, poor people are fucked, and only used to be kind of fucked.

Deinstitutionalization was a disaster.




They miss the state hospitals, say they are better than eating out of trash cans and the staff was nicer to them than people on the street.




Private charity is putting bandaids on cancer lol.

Numerically speaking ofc.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 6 2020 12:44pm

Just caught myself wearing a mask alone in my work area lol.

Only old people should be wearing masks. I wear them most of the time while inside with other people but otherwise ehh.

I see people with masks in gloves alone inside their own car. Some people just take it to far.

Trump said it best,”the cure cant be worse than the disease”

No, no covid here.