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#21
Jun 27 2020 07:53pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Jun 27 2020 09:50pm)
Solid points.

My question is what is the end goal? Are we trying to eliminate history or are we trying to lock it in a box somewhere?

So many other questions. Who defines "clear moral principle"? Can we take a utilitarian rout, perhaps? For example, maybe Wilson said nigger a lot but did his policies outweigh his racism/the collateral damage that racism may have for current and future generations?



I am being critical of its methods, absolutely, however I am not claiming myself superior to them at all. I think there are solid points that support what they want to do and are doing I just disagree. Usually the best result comes from discourse, which is fine.


Real fast about Wilson:

Birth of a Nation was the first movie shown in the White House, in the East Room, on February 18, 1915. (An earlier movie, the Italian Cabiria (1914), was shown on the lawn.) It was attended by President Woodrow Wilson, members of his family, and members of his Cabinet.
Written by: D. W. Griffith, Thomas Dixon
Directed by: D. W. Griffith, Nate Parker
Story by: Thomas Dixon Jr
Music: Joseph Carl Breil, D. W. Griffith
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Jun 27 2020 07:56pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 27 2020 06:53pm)
Real fast about Wilson:

Birth of a Nation was the first movie shown in the White House, in the East Room, on February 18, 1915. (An earlier movie, the Italian Cabiria (1914), was shown on the lawn.) It was attended by President Woodrow Wilson, members of his family, and members of his Cabinet.
Written by: D. W. Griffith, Thomas Dixon
Directed by: D. W. Griffith, Nate Parker
Story by: Thomas Dixon Jr
Music: Joseph Carl Breil, D. W. Griffith


And?

Birth of a Nation, good or bad, is a piece of our aesthetic history, does censoring it change this at all?

Look at JFK. He had minors snuck in to his pool to fuck him and his friends while he was married and while he was President. Does it detract from what he means for our nation? His place in history?
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#23
Jun 27 2020 08:10pm
Quote (IceMage @ 28 Jun 2020 01:52)
https://twitter.com/JonahDispatch/status/1277012876985802753

I basically agree with these points.


Retrograde views relative to the time is a good metric by which to assess historical figures. It allows to identify the truly reprehensible actors while protecting the good guys from being judged by today's standard without proper historical context.
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#24
Jun 27 2020 08:25pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 27 2020 04:48pm)
I think Woodrow Wilson's removal is a bit much but I don't think he cares because he's dead. At the end of the day, it seems that Americans aren't capable of balancing the good that someone does with the bad. Michael Jackson, as an artist, was extremely talented. Michael Jackson, as a person, was creepy as fuck and enjoyed looking at children's buttholes. When I'm listening to "Thriller," that doesn't mean I'm endorsing pedophilia.

Living in an echo chamber is extremely unhealthy because you end up with people like Ghot.


Ghot represents less than one percent of the population. What stooges like you dont understand is that the Democrats are trying to erase history so that it is easier to brainwash the populus - just like the Chinese great leap forward - 1984 style. Not only is it wrong, it is evil to destroy our history.
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Jun 27 2020 08:41pm
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Ghot represents less than one percent of the population. What stooges like you dont understand is that the Democrats are trying to erase history so that it is easier to brainwash the populus - just like the Chinese great leap forward - 1984 style. Not only is it wrong, it is evil to destroy our history.


I very much doubt that. Ghot's views are mainstream within the Republican party. As an engineer with critical thinking skills, you have to understand that you are very much in the minority in this country.

History isn't being destroyed by removing names and tearing down statues. Who the fuck looks at a statue and says "ah yes, my history!" People wouldn't have torn down statues of abolitionists if that was the case. These people have no idea who these people are, they are just tearing down statues because they are ignorant. History is destroyed when you don't put your face in a fucking book. Neither party seems to care much about education because anti-intellectualism is CHAMPIONED in this country.
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#26
Jun 27 2020 08:44pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Jun 27 2020 09:56pm)
And?

Birth of a Nation, good or bad, is a piece of our aesthetic history, does censoring it change this at all?

Look at JFK. He had minors snuck in to his pool to fuck him and his friends while he was married and while he was President. Does it detract from what he means for our nation? His place in history?


Seems like you are the champion of rose tinted lenses?
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#27
Jun 27 2020 09:18pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 27 2020 09:33pm)
Nietzsche is right.

Soros isn't the reason your life sucks though.


My life doesnt suck. Gg no re
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#28
Jun 27 2020 09:20pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Jun 27 2020 04:01pm)
How Long Until The Echo Chamber Is Complete?


Never. We are just playing whack-a-mole with things. Some issues get ironed out and no longer debated. Other new issues pop up for us to fight over.

A hundred years ago, the cultural sentiment was an "echo chamber" on guns and homosexuality. Guns were good, homosexuality was bad, no one questioned it. Nowadays, those two things have become divisive issues.

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#29
Jun 27 2020 10:15pm
I hope soon. I'm tired of seeing retards like goom and pence
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Jun 27 2020 11:13pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 27 2020 10:41pm)
I very much doubt that. Ghot's views are mainstream within the Republican party. As an engineer with critical thinking skills, you have to understand that you are very much in the minority in this country.

History isn't being destroyed by removing names and tearing down statues. Who the fuck looks at a statue and says "ah yes, my history!" People wouldn't have torn down statues of abolitionists if that was the case. These people have no idea who these people are, they are just tearing down statues because they are ignorant. History is destroyed when you don't put your face in a fucking book. Neither party seems to care much about education because anti-intellectualism is CHAMPIONED in this country.


Youll be proven wrong. The Democrats champion this on purpose while coordinating with Soros types. And ill be long gone before your lies collapse in a pool of blood and propaganda.

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