To answer the question, I think the best political system must possess or be the following:

- Proportional representation
- Republic
- Clear limits on executive terms that are enforcable
- A constitution

I really didn't think a constitution was necessary until a few years ago after Brexit happened. I viewed it as a rules-based system instead of one guided by principles and guidelines, which made it inferior. I changed my mind when I saw our political system quicky descend into murky grey areas that we just didn't know the legality of, like the flagrant attempt to deny MPs a vote by proroguing parliament.

It goes without saying that no country should have a monarchy anymore. No-one has a higher birthright than a fellow human and it's a disgrace we still have it today.

They still have a strict immigration policy.



Hmm?

The national language for Switzerland is:

Italian
French
German
Romanish

Not possessing a criminal record is standard across most countries, same with national security threats.

I'm not saying they don't have a decent immigration system, but the right-wing view on immigration is to severely limit it, which just hasn't happened in Switzerland.

In terms of getting the right numbers of skilled immigrants, they are probably better than any other country in the world bar Australia, but they're small so it's far easier to regulate than in a country of the USA's size.

This post was edited by dro94 on Jun 22 2020 07:02am

The right wing wish list on immigration is pretty close to what the Swiss require according to DJ's quote

ability to speak and write the national language
integration into Swiss society
clean criminal record
Swiss authorities assessing you as no threat to national security
the ability to support yourself without recourse to social welfare

These are pretty much all the reasons many on the right want as reasons to limit immigration. Only one not mentioned is the dey took er jerbs

Skilled workers in Switzerland are welcome but they require a work permit, after that they leave again. Superior policy compared to some other countries that gave unskilled workers permanent residency after a number of years, allowed them to get their families across and allowed those family members to import future husbands or wives from the home countries as well.

And the same countries allowing all of that now face large groups of people from other cultures that don't need to speak the language or to integrate because why would they? Want to get married, import someone from your home country so you can forever speak your own language and keep your own culture going.

Nothing you've said counters the things I said, just proves I'm right. Once again what I said was:



And then I showed you why they do it better in the post above by quoting the requirements. The Swiss are not being pushed around by the EU, they have their own policies on immigration and rightfully so.

This is not some right wing view or whatever, I don't know what you are getting on about. They're an independent country.

I am still missing something.



These criteria all look pretty standard, even for people migrating within the EU. What does Switzerland do that makes their policies particularly strict?

I'm not saying they're particularly strict in the sense of trying to close their borders, I'm saying they're stricter. Other countries are way easier like I explained above already. Feel free to add what you are missing if the list is incomplete.

a constitutional republic without executive orders or something that goes against majority even if they are benevolent would be a good start.
USA was great experiment.
Also a system must reflect the current evolutionary development and values of society. If you have a majority of greedy i am holier then thou people running around then any system would be ineffective

They are very strict about giving immigrants the Swiss citizenship. Coming to the country, living off of welfare for a couple of years, then earning minimum wage working in a phone shop or kebab for another couple of years, and then receiving citizenship without even speaking the language of the country properly - that's a reality in a lot of the big migration countries like the US, the UK, France or Germany - but unthinkable in Switzerland.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 23 2020 08:52am

Why are people so polarized in opinion and differences? It seems like you cant say or do anything without someone violently opposing everything. Whats happening?
Cant people just respect another?