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Jun 18 2020 07:12am
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 18 2020 11:06pm)
Nothing, I reacted to dishonest user saucepot6K quoting me. I already gave my opinion on the statue



Great post there +1


No you didn't.

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It should be rebuilt out of the material of destroyed Napoleon statues


It should be tossed in the trash where it belongs.
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Jun 18 2020 07:19am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 18 2020 03:12pm)
No you didn't.


post #4

Quote (Djunior @ Jun 18 2020 01:23pm)
To me it seems that this thread's #1 purpose is supporting the taking down of statues by rage mobs and attacking authorities that want to restore the pieces of art taken down by said rage mobs.

Whether or not a statue / work of art / cultural heritage should be taken down is up to the authorities, it's not up to rage mobs to decide that.


Do I have to add that I'm for rebuilding the statue that was illegally taken down by rage mobs? I think my post clearly implies that

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post #4



Do I have to add that I'm for rebuilding the statue that was illegally taken down by rage mobs? I think my post clearly implies that


Why waste the money on a piece of junk made to remember a murdering racist?, are rate payers funds best spent on statues of racists?
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Why waste the money on a piece of junk made to remember a murdering racist?, are rate payers funds best spent on statues of racists?


We are indeed wasting a whole lot of money repairing damage done by far left rage mobs, that's a sound observation ^^

They should figure out a way to make these idiots pay for it themselves via forced labor. It would give em some work experience that they lack. Killing 2 flies with one stone

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Jun 18 2020 08:33am
The state govt should auction off all of the confederate statues and let all the proceeds go to BLM. then let the racists decide if they want to fund BLM or watch their history be dismantled by a wrecking ball.
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Quote (Djunior @ Jun 18 2020 11:46pm)
We are indeed wasting a whole lot of money repairing damage done by far left rage mobs, that's a sound observation ^^

They should figure out a way to make these idiots pay for it themselves via forced labor. It would give em some work experience that they lack. Killing 2 flies with one stone


Lets say three members of your family were dragged outside and lynched for the colour of their skin, how exactly would YOU feel about a statue for the guy who told them to do it?
You think it doesn't matter because it didn't happen to you, you are not black.. WHICH IS WHY THESE PROTESTS HAPPEN.


Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 12:33am)
The state govt should auction off all of the confederate statues and let all the proceeds go to BLM. then let the racists decide if they want to fund BLM or watch their history be dismantled by a wrecking ball.


This guy wasn't a confederate, he was much worse.

"Throughout his career, Carmack was known to use his newspapers to attack rivals. During Carmack's tenure with the Appeal, his editorials began an interesting dialogue with another famous Tennessee journalist, Ida B. Wells. Wells, known as the "Mother of the Civil Rights Movement", was also not one to withhold her opinions and spoke out about the plight of African Americans in the post-Reconstruction era in the South. Memphis in the 1890s was a hotbed of racial tension, and lynching crimes were commonplace. Wells launched an anti-lynching campaign in her newspaper, Free Speech.

Free Speech received national attention in 1892 for its coverage of the so-called Curve Riot in Memphis. The Curve Riot was not in fact a riot, it was an attack on the People's Grocery Store by a group of undercover white police serving a warrant on the black-owned business. Will Barret, the store's white competitor, had convinced a local court that the People's Grocery was a nuisance. The court ordered the owners arrested. Fearing an attack, supporters of the People's Grocery armed themselves to defend the store. In the ensuing melee, three deputies were wounded. Crying "race riot," other armed whites joined the police and captured over thirty African Americans, including three of the store's owners: Tom Moss, Calvin McDowell, and Will Stewart.

A mob later seized the three from the jail and lynched them. Wells wrote passionately of the atrocity and advised her readers to abandon Memphis and move to the western territories. Many followed her advice. Carmack demanded retaliation against "the black wench" for her denunciation of the lynchings. As a result, the offices of Free Speech were demolished. Fortunately, Wells was out of town when the attack occurred. She did not return to the South for another thirty years."

Then he literally died trying to murder a business rival over an argument, he went to the mans place with a gun, shot at his son and wounded him then died when the son returned fire.

And this man has a commemoration statue being rebuilt..

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jun 18 2020 09:11am
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Lets say three members of your family were dragged outside and lynched for the colour of their skin, how exactly would YOU feel about a statue for the guy who told them to do it?
You think it doesn't matter because it didn't happen to you, you are not black.. WHICH IS WHY THESE PROTESTS HAPPEN.




This guy wasn't a confederate, he was much worse.

"Throughout his career, Carmack was known to use his newspapers to attack rivals. During Carmack's tenure with the Appeal, his editorials began an interesting dialogue with another famous Tennessee journalist, Ida B. Wells. Wells, known as the "Mother of the Civil Rights Movement", was also not one to withhold her opinions and spoke out about the plight of African Americans in the post-Reconstruction era in the South. Memphis in the 1890s was a hotbed of racial tension, and lynching crimes were commonplace. Wells launched an anti-lynching campaign in her newspaper, Free Speech.

Free Speech received national attention in 1892 for its coverage of the so-called Curve Riot in Memphis. The Curve Riot was not in fact a riot, it was an attack on the People's Grocery Store by a group of undercover white police serving a warrant on the black-owned business. Will Barret, the store's white competitor, had convinced a local court that the People's Grocery was a nuisance. The court ordered the owners arrested. Fearing an attack, supporters of the People's Grocery armed themselves to defend the store. In the ensuing melee, three deputies were wounded. Crying "race riot," other armed whites joined the police and captured over thirty African Americans, including three of the store's owners: Tom Moss, Calvin McDowell, and Will Stewart.

A mob later seized the three from the jail and lynched them. Wells wrote passionately of the atrocity and advised her readers to abandon Memphis and move to the western territories. Many followed her advice. Carmack demanded retaliation against "the black wench" for her denunciation of the lynchings. As a result, the offices of Free Speech were demolished. Fortunately, Wells was out of town when the attack occurred. She did not return to the South for another thirty years."

Then he literally died trying to murder a business rival over an argument, he went to the mans place with a gun, shot at his son and wounded him then died when the son returned fire.

And this man has a commemoration statue being rebuilt..


he's a white guy lynching black people violently. call him a racist, confederate, KKK member, w/e. idc. i'd like to see ALL of their statues down. fuck giving monuments to people who are shitty. whether its a KKK dragon, a confederate pot scrubber, or a Hollywood rapist who gets to keep their stars and awards. when you're famous the price for betraying mankind shouldn't be vilification, it should be erasure. you should be nothing but a spot in the archives with missing data. no statues, no foot notes, nothing. is this possible? maybe not. can we at least try by not giving people second chances like we did with Chris Brown? yes. can we remove statues and stars on the Hollywood Blvd? yes. can we give an award to the 2nd place finisher in best actor when someone gets caught doing bad things? yes. they won that year, why? because the winner is a subhuman piece of garbage. piss on their ashes, they still have millions. Kevin Spacey isn't hurting, and if he was i wouldnt care.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 01:16am)
he's a white guy lynching black people violently. call him a racist, confederate, KKK member, w/e. idc. i'd like to see ALL of their statues down. fuck giving monuments to people who are shitty. whether its a KKK dragon, a confederate pot scrubber, or a Hollywood rapist who gets to keep their stars and awards. when you're famous the price for betraying mankind shouldn't be vilification, it should be erasure. you should be nothing but a spot in the archives with missing data. no statues, no foot notes, nothing. is this possible? maybe not. can we at least try by not giving people second chances like we did with Chris Brown? yes. can we remove statues and stars on the Hollywood Blvd? yes. can we give an award to the 2nd place finisher in best actor when someone gets caught doing bad things? yes. they won that year, why? because the winner is a subhuman piece of garbage. piss on their ashes, they still have millions. Kevin Spacey isn't hurting, and if he was i wouldnt care.


I agree, i am fine with putting all the trash in museums with solid explanations of how shitty they were as people but out in public for people to revere?
If i saw a statue in my town, checked the plaque and googled the name only to see "Loved lynchings, hated people of colour, was a senator for a few years" id demand to know why my money is maintaining it.

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I agree, i am fine with putting all the trash in museums with solid explanations of how shitty they were as people but out in public for people to revere?
If i saw a statue in my town, checked the plaque and googled the name only to see "Loved lynchings, hated people of colour, was a senator for a few years" id demand to know why my money is maintaining it.


while i agree in a sense i have always found the "why are my tax dollars" argument to be very weak. because your tax dollars are so watered down in context its useless. like a statue for example, of 50 years as a tax payer it MAYBE costs $5,000 to maintain. some cement patching, a new plaque, weed whacking, pressure washing, etc. then that 5k is divided by years, then by # of people in your area paying taxes. when its all said and done your "my taxes" equals like 7 cents over 50 years. same for welfare haters, as if they give more than like 10$ per year to these people. "i saw a lady at the grocery store with 50 pizzas and a WIC card", like yeah, so what.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 01:32am)
while i agree in a sense i have always found the "why are my tax dollars" argument to be very weak. because your tax dollars are so watered down in context its useless. like a statue for example, of 50 years as a tax payer it MAYBE costs $5,000 to maintain. some cement patching, a new plaque, weed whacking, pressure washing, etc. then that 5k is divided by years, then by # of people in your area paying taxes. when its all said and done your "my taxes" equals like 7 cents over 50 years. same for welfare haters, as if they give more than like 10$ per year to these people. "i saw a lady at the grocery store with 50 pizzas and a WIC card", like yeah, so what.


Australian war memorial just had 500 million dollar expansion approved in a recession, some of these things are not cheap.
My great uncle died in ww2, I often wonder what he would think if I told him the memorial he is listed on cost 3 billion dollars.

Yeah I do not care about welfare I rather people make use of it at all opportunities.

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