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When it come to guns here, some are losing they very few dignity they had left.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 3 2020 07:20am)
Again we banned SEMI AUTOMATICS.
And again there are very few guns on the street, most of them are on farms in gun safes.
To own a gun in australia you need to be a licenced member of a shooting club or own rural land of a certain size.


Didn't know semi-automatics are the only guns that kill people.
If they're in private possession, they're "on the streets."
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Quote (Santara @ Jun 3 2020 10:24pm)
Didn't know semi-automatics are the only guns that kill people.
If they're in private possession, they're "on the streets."
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A gun locked up in a safe on a 75 acre block 4 hours from the nearest town is not on the streets.
Semi automatics are the guns that kill a whole bunch of people really fast.
That's what we wanted to prevent.
Good luck walking into kmart with a bolt action single shot rifle and trying to kill more than 3 people before you get tackled.
I have never stated all guns were banned anywhere at all, stop reaching.

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A gun locked up in a safe on a 75 acre block 4 hours from the nearest town is not on the streets.
Semi automatics are the guns that kill a whole bunch of people really fast.
That's what we wanted to prevent.
Good luck walking into kmart with a bolt action single shot rifle and trying to kill more than 3 people before you get tackled.


Smarter to use a pump action shotgun. Easily kill as many people as you have shells, if not more.
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Quote (Engage_Enemy @ Jun 3 2020 10:28pm)
Smarter to use a pump action shotgun. Easily kill as many people as you have shells, if not more.


Illegal here.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 3 2020 08:29am)
Illegal here.


Australia is weird man.
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Quote (Engage_Enemy @ Jun 3 2020 10:32pm)
Australia is weird man.


Our last real mass shooting was in 1990.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2020 07:09am)
Even if this bill did become law, how long would it last until the Supreme Court strikes it down? Perhaps 2-4 weeks?

Also... can this be passed with a simple majority in the House, or does it require a supermajority?



Similar story in New Zealand, where the government issued a mandatory gun buyback in the aftermath of the Christchurch shooting, and it fell completely flat, it was a total dud.



Great questions I do not know the answer to

Hopefully it does fall flat

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 3 2020 07:09am)
Even if this bill did become law, how long would it last until the Supreme Court strikes it down? Perhaps 2-4 weeks?

Also... can this be passed with a simple majority in the House, or does it require a supermajority?



Similar story in New Zealand, where the government issued a mandatory gun buyback in the aftermath of the Christchurch shooting, and it fell completely flat, it was a total dud.


Some of it passes Constitutional muster.

It needs a majority in the House. It will need a supermajority in the Senate.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 3 2020 07:26am)
A gun locked up in a safe on a 75 acre block 4 hours from the nearest town is not on the streets.
Semi automatics are the guns that kill a whole bunch of people really fast.
That's what we wanted to prevent.
Good luck walking into kmart with a bolt action single shot rifle and trying to kill more than 3 people before you get tackled.
I have never stated all guns were banned anywhere at all, stop reaching.


And yet there are more urban than rural firearm homicides.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 3 2020 07:32am)
Our last real mass shooting was in 1990.


Yeah... no.
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Quote (hunter_1 @ Jun 3 2020 02:14am)
HR 5717 would:

Create a nationwide gun registry
Ban almost all semiautomatic rifles
Institute a federal Magazine Ban
Implement national "Red Flag" gun confiscation
Tax guns at 30% and ammo at 50%
Ban patriots under 21 from exercising their Second Amendment rights
Ration guns by making it illegal to purchase more than one firearm in a 30-day period
Force "Safe Storage" requirements on gun owners
Ban home builds
Ban suppressors
Force FFLs to spend massive amounts of money to comply with new "security" requirements
Expand "Gun Free Zones"


And what are the cons?
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