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May 20 2020 11:13am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 20 2020 01:05am)
I mean, if you've been mutilated as a child, and you've dealt with infections and strange crusty issues for the first 5-10 years of your life, all due to pieces of you being cut off, then I don't understand why anyone would make light of it.

I suspect Thor is a person who has never experienced anything, and claims to be knowledgeable about everything, and therefore feels free to weigh in.

Just like every other nerd who lives in their mother's basement.


Seems your go-to when you want to dismiss an opinion is to start attaching labels you dont like to the other person regardless of their accuracy.
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May 20 2020 11:17am
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Seems your go-to when you want to dismiss an opinion is to start attaching labels you dont like to the other person regardless of their accuracy.


You've already stated you support child mutilation. I'd rather say you've labeled yourself here.
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May 20 2020 11:19am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 20 2020 12:17pm)
You've already stated you support child mutilation. I'd rather say you've labeled yourself here.


Where did I say that? Be specific
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i support circumcision because all cheese should be pasteurized before human consumption. i also do not support this type of law, because it infringes on the rights of parents. but think that a large hurdle should be required to clear before any reassignment surgeries are done. and i dont mean going to a trans specialist for a single opinion. im not even very in favor of hormonal treatment, but have read recently that most of it can be reversed. its a tough line to walk, but if something is reversible i dont see the moral issue with doing it within reason to children at or near teen ages. we are just not equipped with many long term studies being that the practice and number of reversed cases arent that high.
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Wait a second now.

I was circumcised. I had no choice in the matter. If I had, I wouldn't be.

Are you indicating that idealistic parents should have even more say over irreversible impacts over their children that their children are going to have to live with?

I mean, isn't part of the role of government to prevent people from mutilating other people without good cause?


He's playing like he's a libertarian.
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May 20 2020 11:26am
It's not that I don't agree with this ban, but it's not a significant issue. It's really easy for an incompetent, populist government to ban things and look tough, but I care about issues that will affect people's lives.

How are the free trade deal negotiations going with the world? They're non-existent. How many people have died from coronavirus? 35k officially and 65k unofficially using FT excess deaths, with a population of 65m.

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May 20 2020 11:35am
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Where did I say that? Be specific


Quote (Thor123422 @ May 19 2020 10:40pm)
Parents know what is best for their kids. Big government in Washington cant know what is going on in every childs life. If you value freedom this is a bad bill


The bill is to prevent irreversible surgeries that mutilate their children prior to their children turning 18.

The part you don't seem to understand is that the "transitional surgeries" remove these children from the gene pool entirely. They can no longer have children of their own, they've now been castrated.

It's a rather extreme and completely irreversible choice. The bill doesn't even prevent hormone therapy, or anything else. Merely removes the ability of parents to push their kids into something that may well ruin their lives.

By claiming parents "know what's best" when it comes to quite literally mutilating their children, you're showing yourself to be an active supporter of child mutilation. :)

Also, this wouldn't be "big government in Washington". This is a UK bill. The UK is not govered by Washington, genius.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 20 2020 10:24am)
i support circumcision because all cheese should be pasteurized before human consumption. i also do not support this type of law, because it infringes on the rights of parents. but think that a large hurdle should be required to clear before any reassignment surgeries are done. and i dont mean going to a trans specialist for a single opinion. im not even very in favor of hormonal treatment, but have read recently that most of it can be reversed. its a tough line to walk, but if something is reversible i dont see the moral issue with doing it within reason to children at or near teen ages. we are just not equipped with many long term studies being that the practice and number of reversed cases arent that high.


The UK bill would only prevent the irreversible surgeries. You can't reverse castration.

And the Circumcision argument is invalid. Bathing is not considered taboo. If parents can't teach their sons how to wash under their foreskin, then they aren't qualified to be parents. :)
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May 20 2020 11:45am
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The UK bill would only prevent the irreversible surgeries. You can't reverse castration.

And the Circumcision argument is invalid. Bathing is not considered taboo. If parents can't teach their sons how to wash under their foreskin, then they aren't qualified to be parents. :)


it makes me a bad parent to want my son to get 2x more blowjobs? i was expecting a #1 Dad mug 16 years from now not a call to CPS.
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May 20 2020 11:57am
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The bill is to prevent irreversible surgeries that mutilate their children prior to their children turning 18.

The part you don't seem to understand is that the "transitional surgeries" remove these children from the gene pool entirely. They can no longer have children of their own, they've now been castrated.

It's a rather extreme and completely irreversible choice. The bill doesn't even prevent hormone therapy, or anything else. Merely removes the ability of parents to push their kids into something that may well ruin their lives.

By claiming parents "know what's best" when it comes to quite literally mutilating their children, you're showing yourself to be an active supporter of child mutilation. :)

Also, this wouldn't be "big government in Washington". This is a UK bill. The UK is not govered by Washington, genius.


Supporting the freedom to do something isn't the same as condoning people do it.

I don't support you being able to post on this forum but I believe in your freedom to do so.

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May 20 2020 11:59am
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 20 2020 12:57pm)
Supporting the freedom to do something isn't the same as condoning people do it.

I don't support you being able to post on this forum but I believe in your freedom to do so.


i freely dont support breast support, i'd support no support, pure freedom.
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