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May 3 2020 12:33pm
She got the progressive vote in 2016, if these shenanigans occurred this time around I highly doubt progressive dems would be on board

Will ensure landslide victory for trump, although it will likely be land slide victory for him anyway

Turns out Lack of planning for 4 years has consequences
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May 3 2020 12:57pm
Quote (Bazi @ 3 May 2020 14:33)
She got the progressive vote in 2016, if these shenanigans occurred this time around I highly doubt progressive dems would be on board

Will ensure landslide victory for trump, although it will likely be land slide victory for him anyway

Turns out Lack of planning for 4 years has consequences

great post my friend!
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May 3 2020 01:06pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 3 2020 02:25pm)
why because of the accusation?
trump had like 25 of them.
SO yea he is morally above.
trump presidency has been an absolute shit show.. I'm not kidding when I say I would vote for a squirrel.

what's been the "shit show", has been the reaction from the left on nearly everything.
the hypocrisy in literally everything.

Trump impeachment. over "quid-pro-quo". "election interference against opponent"
that "quid-pro-quo" itself, was looking into information on "Biden's" quid-pro-quo, that was referenced a year prior on the NYT i believe. (one of those outlets, not fabricated and paid for by Trump)(a lot of it shown true when bringing up Hunter's name especially)
Hilary Clinton funded the "Steele Dossier" as "fabricated" op-ed to arm intelligence agencies against a Trump candidacy and members of his campaign.

even if you can assume the worst about Trump's intentions with that "quid-pro-quo", HRC has already done worse by funding fabricated claims that lead to numerous investigations that have spanned years into the presidency.
most of you on the left supported impeachment of Trump even without really knowing any evidence.
with HRC, you can't even understand why we don't like her. not only has she sabotaged Trump (and failed), but she's also sabotaged Sanders. (shown through wikileaks)

although not running a perfect record.... a lot of those claims on Trump are pretty bogus. that's why people like Fender are still trying to claim he raped his wife, and you see dummies running around "i believe Stormy"? believe she was paid for sex many years ago? ok
the best ones right now are the "Trump is pro-China" ads. it's almost a new low in accusations.

you can pick literally any topic i can show the flip-flop. i defend Trump when i think he's not in the wrong, and i will often agree with when i think he messed up. who on your side can really say the same?
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Thoughtfulness and consistency. Not appoint more judges who undermine civil rights and disable the safety net. Trump has nominated more judges in fed district courts than any potus by this time and they are all flat earthers more or less. Conservative judges are even alarmed by them.

Democrats handle the economy better objectively, if you care about data and statistics whatsoever.

Economic opportunity is important, and Dems are just better at economics and managing the economy. Republicans always leave the economy in recession lol.

Biden has heard about things like Palestine or Red Sea conflict before becoming president etc.

He won't be on twitter, which is really far beneath the conduct a president should have. The standing potus shouldn't blather all over social media spreading gossip and bullying people. Its disgraceful. Does he have a tinder too? Why is he so immature lol.

And it's unlikely that joe biden has a full blown cluster B personality disorder like president trump has.

Biden has was worked hard his whole life, working class values, lived with family and commuted to DC with other people who work for a living, an experience alien to Trump, who has only shit on workers and made legislation favorable to their managers in his short political career.

Trump is a liar, he contradicts himself and says he didn't say things he is on record saying. He isn't respectable. He has no self ownership. He can't apologize. So many terrible character flaws. He has an ex wife who testified he pulled her hair out after a procedure on it in a forced sexual encounter she described as rape on court hearings and went back on after financial litigation.

Maybe positive reasons on his merits and many comparative reasons based on his opponent.

how are dems better at economics when things were going as they were with Obama, and projected to get worse?
Trump came in and it literally took a pandemic to shake up his progress. his policy on fixing the shitty deals left by the previous "democrats", as well as bring manufacturing back home... were not only great for the economy and unemployment numbers, but as we can see during this pandemic, should have happened a long time ago.

Trump can be a liar and contradict himself, but so does Biden. Trump's travel ban was "Xenophobic" according to Biden. then it was "not far or fast enough".
how about "firing a prosecutor over $1 billion?" was Biden lying when he said he did that, or when he said he didn't say that? (though he did)

ohhhh wait... you meant "China's economy". i get you now.

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what's been the "shit show", has been the reaction from the left on nearly everything.
the hypocrisy in literally everything.

Trump impeachment. over "quid-pro-quo". "election interference against opponent"
that "quid-pro-quo" itself, was looking into information on "Biden's" quid-pro-quo, that was referenced a year prior on the NYT i believe. (one of those outlets, not fabricated and paid for by Trump)(a lot of it shown true when bringing up Hunter's name especially)
Hilary Clinton funded the "Steele Dossier" as "fabricated" op-ed to arm intelligence agencies against a Trump candidacy and members of his campaign.

even if you can assume the worst about Trump's intentions with that "quid-pro-quo", HRC has already done worse by funding fabricated claims that lead to numerous investigations that have spanned years into the presidency.
most of you on the left supported impeachment of Trump even without really knowing any evidence.
with HRC, you can't even understand why we don't like her. not only has she sabotaged Trump (and failed), but she's also sabotaged Sanders. (shown through wikileaks)

although not running a perfect record.... a lot of those claims on Trump are pretty bogus. that's why people like Fender are still trying to claim he raped his wife, and you see dummies running around "i believe Stormy"? believe she was paid for sex many years ago? ok
the best ones right now are the "Trump is pro-China" ads. it's almost a new low in accusations.

you can pick literally any topic i can show the flip-flop. i defend Trump when i think he's not in the wrong, and i will often agree with when i think he messed up. who on your side can really say the same?

how are dems better at economics when things were going as they were with Obama, and projected to get worse?
Trump came in and it literally took a pandemic to shake up his progress. his policy on fixing the shitty deals left by the previous "democrats", as well as bring manufacturing back home... were not only great for the economy and unemployment numbers, but as we can see during this pandemic, should have happened a long time ago.

Trump can be a liar and contradict himself, but so does Biden. Trump's travel ban was "Xenophobic" according to Biden. then it was "not far or fast enough".
how about "firing a prosecutor over $1 billion?" was Biden lying when he said he did that, or when he said he didn't say that? (though he did)

ohhhh wait... you meant "China's economy". i get you now.


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HRC might end up president though.

What happens if she works this time? She didn't even campaign and won the popular vote.

Meanwhile trump is bound to have less supporters and he did when he ran for president.

You don't want it.


First off, she's already shown herself to be so unlikable she couldn't win even while being handed every advantage. People are less likely to vote for a proven loser.

Secondly, the lady has such poor health and low energy she can't survive a few hours on a mild summer day without fainting. She wouldn't physically be capable of campaigning as fervently as Trump even if she wanted to.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 3 2020 02:19pm)
A challenger ever having a perceived advantage over an incumbent is something that's not happened in my lifetime. I'm excited to see what happens in November. Will probably be a defining point in my worldview for the rest of my life. Either the people of the U.S. are collectively minimally competent, or this whole Democracy thing has truly run its course. Let's see.


Agreed. Trump getting elected once is a fluke. America reaffirming that choice after all that's happened the last few years will be incomprehensible. It would be a strong sign of decay.
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May 3 2020 03:28pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 3 2020 05:24pm)
Agreed. Trump getting elected once is a fluke. America reaffirming that choice after all that's happened the last few years will be incomprehensible. It would be a strong sign of decay.




I'm saving this quote for future posts with that other 2016 quote. :D
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Quote (Ghot @ May 3 2020 05:28pm)
I'm saving this quote for future posts with that other 2016 quote. :D


Cool story bro.
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May 3 2020 03:41pm
I love the implicit threat in this: "America, you have a second chance to make the right choice. If you fail again, I/we will give up on democracy and go full authoritarian."
It also plays nicely into the old meme that for liberals, 'democracy' is only when they are winning.


The accusations against Biden are of course significant but not enough to disqualify him from running. The way they are handled by Biden, the Democratic party and their allies all across the media still undeniably exposes their massive hypocrisy and double standard.
It's an absolute treat to watch them squirm and engage in absurd mental acrobatics trying to weasel out of the hole they have dug for themselves with their whole #metoo and #believeallwomen rhetoric of the last couple of years. :rofl:


Oh, yeah, this thread is about Hillary. She's still an unlikeable bitch, and pushing her to the top of the ticket through shady shenanigans would ensure Trump's victory.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 3 2020 03:43pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 3 2020 04:41pm)
I love the implicit threat in this: "America, you have a second chance to make the right choice. If you fail again, I/we will give up on democracy and go full authoritarian."
It also plays nicely into the old meme that for liberals, 'democracy' is only when they are winning.

The accusations against Biden are of course significant but not enough to disqualify him from running. The way they are handled by Biden, the Democratic party and their allies all across the media still undeniably exposes their massive hypocrisy and double standard.
It's an absolute treat to watch them squirm and engage in absurd mental acrobatics trying to weasel out of the hole they have dug for themselves with their whole #metoo and #believeallwomen rhetoric of the last couple of years. :rofl:


It's not that "Democracy is only good when we are winning". I would have never said something like this about Romney or even Bush. Trump is far different from any modern president in that he's just not qualified for the position. He doesn't respect the office, he has alienated our allies, he has a historically bad handling of a disaster, he is more divisive than any president in modern history, etc. etc.

Take any Republican with the exact same policy agenda as Trump and make them capable of governing and none of us would be saying this. Hell, IceMage voted Romney, so Biden winning is hardly his preference. But he and I both know that having a minimally competent executive is more important than any ideological leanings.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 3 2020 03:51pm
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