I wouldn't say it's so much ignored as it is "normal" in the context of human history. Virtually everywhere had slavery of some form, largely of conquered people. It's not surprising then that individual instances of that would get ignored as background noise. I mean, it's not just that instance after all. I doubt most people know that Rome's wealth was built on the back of conquering and enslaving people to work the farmland, or that slaves outnumbered citizens in Sparta 5:1 and that's what allowed them to be a military power.

We're not talking about eons ago. Boko Haram, Sudan, etc, these are examples in our lifetime. There's nothing normal about that. Why are you arguing for slavery being normal in the 21th century?

Doesn't seem like you really have a point to what you're saying anymore. The modern instances you are talking about have been covered by virtually every news outlet, and the instances that aren't modern are normal in the backdrop of history pre-1850. So there isn't a lie by omission to be found in your examples.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 11 2020 04:27pm

I don't dispute your point on the scale and impact of the Atlantic slave trade. It's a good point. I do find it kind of strange that you say the current African examples as 'normal', comparing it to ancient Sparta and Rome. In this age, slavery is not normal and it makes no sense to compare it to previous historical examples.

I didn't say those are normal for today. You're taking your first assumption about my intentions and just not asking yourself "is it a reasonable take that he thinks slavery today is normal"?

What was the point of you comparing modern slavery in Africa to Sparta or Rome? Part and parcel of history, etc? Seems to me like you are trying to minimize and normalize it. Not sure why you guys on the left have this need to excuse Muslims behavior.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 11 2020 04:57pm

I agree, extremely damaging. In cases like this, it creates more distrust in community policing, which is already under heavy scrutiny. That distrust actually creates a more dangerous environment and scenario for both blacks and police.

I mean, if a black person believes all cops are racist and just kill or convict black people in spite, how willing are they to cooperate/comply with lawful orders, respect law enforcement, etc.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Apr 11 2020 05:06pm

The slavery that coexisted with and, to some degree, continued past the trans Atlantic slave trade was typical slavery that existed in pretty much the entire world pre 1800 (which is the slavery I was comparing to Sparta, Rome, etc), in that it was largely enslavement of conquered people. The parts that were systematic enslavement of whole populations was the part of the slave trade that was contiguous with the trans Atlantic slave trade.

The slavery that still exists in Africa is only present in areas where the rule of law has all but broken down, like the Congo. As such it's not really a case of "African slavery still existing" so much as it is a case of "that regions fucked yo". This is not normal, but it's also misleading to say it's contiguous with the traditions of slavery that coexisted with the trans Atlantic slave trade.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 11 2020 05:19pm

:huh:

Spear through the gut. Let them die in pain and darkness.