you grew up with everything and managed to vote for bush twice, romney, and then clinton.

epitome of failure and zero values

Bernie Sanders is already won the primary. You will not be the nomination but his issues dominated the conversation.

Polls in some states showed support for various "progressive" policies were the good majority, and Biden still won. Biden will work to get things done. He's not going to support political losers.



Why were you stalking me when I was 13?

those idiots never worked out that polls asking "would you like a seafood dinner" didn't equal out to "ok lets go to red lobster now, you're paying".

that came from an an-Trump anti-American post of yours from 2017. you randomly were 13 then?

This post was edited by excellence on Mar 11 2020 07:01pm

I'm not even joking around anymore. Why are you cataloging my posts from 2017? And tracking who I voted for when I was 13?

the difference is the conclusion we're drawing from this:

- you think people made an informed decision to support biden, because they think he will get at least some of the 'progressive' policies done.
- i think people are (once again) falling for empty campaign promises - by someone who has a long political record documenting that he will side with his donors over his gullible supporters.

doing the same thing over and over again (like voting for an establishment candidate), and expecting a different result (like getting ANY meaningful change on progressive issues like universal healthcare / affordable education / adequate wages / opposing wars / regulating wall street / protecting consumers / fair taxation of corporations and rich people...), is the definition of insanity.
as long as politicians keep accepting legalised bribes from the very people whose massive wealth is based and dependent on opposing those things, nothing meaningful will change.

Thus Clinton wasn't that bad finally

speaking of idiots, you'd have to be a special kind of stupid and dishonest to still be regurgitating the moronic 'well of course they want stuff if you offer it, they just don't want to pay for it' narrative - especially when study after study shows that universal healthcare might actually be CHEAPER than the current system, and when some of the other ways to finance the 'free stuff' (like taxing the rich and corporations adequately / opposing expensive forever wars / taxing high frequency trading) are similarly popular.

This post was edited by fender on Mar 11 2020 07:23pm