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Mar 3 2020 02:52pm
Quote (djman72 @ 3 Mar 2020 17:56)
He's awful. CNN is finally telling the truth on air.


He's super consistent and represent an alter-ego of Trump which has a strong disapproval.
Biden is so tasteless.
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Mar 3 2020 03:06pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 3 2020 09:02am)
Creepy Joe is gonna sneak up on this race like it's a 12 year old girl.

Bloomberg's campaign will be stopped and frisked today, and my guess is they find a gun.

Bernie is going to feel the establishment's cruel hand once again today.


Ouch
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Mar 3 2020 03:17pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 3 2020 03:06pm)
Ouch


im happy someone enjoyed that lol

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 3 2020 02:20pm)
Not directed at me, but I actually wrote about this in some detail, so I'll quote myself in case anyone is interested:




https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=80773490&f=119&p=555521879#p555521879


Pennsylvania in particular is a state which is demographically dominated by rural and/or working-class whites as well as blacks in and around Philly. So Biden seems like a much better fit for PA than Sanders. And Biden has ties to the state, being from Scranton and all that.
Florida is another pivotal state where I see Biden relatively strong and Sanders relatively weak. FL has a ton of older voters, which are Bernie's weakest demographic, it has a relatively high share of African Americans, and Sanders' praise for Cuba and Castro will not go down well AT ALL with Cuban Americans, which are a powerful voting bloc in the state.

On the other hand, I think that Bernie should be quite strong in Michigan. No idea about Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin. Ohio will not be a battleground state, Trump has it in the bag (if he doesnt, he's more than finished anyway).


i agree with this more or less.
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Mar 3 2020 03:28pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 3 2020 02:52pm)
He's super consistent and represent an alter-ego of Trump which has a strong disapproval.
Biden is so tasteless.


I agree that Biden is very similar to bland food diet of toast, white rice, and bananas.

Doesn't make Sanders any less insane.
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Mar 3 2020 03:35pm
Quote (djman72 @ Mar 3 2020 03:28pm)
I agree that Biden is very similar to bland food diet of toast, white rice, and bananas.

Doesn't make Sanders any less insane.


ironic that that's the diet my mom used on me when i had the stomach flu. and the thought of Bernie vs Trump feels just like diarrhea.
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Mar 3 2020 03:37pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 3 Mar 2020 16:35)
ironic that that's the diet my mom used on me when i had the stomach flu. and the thought of Bernie vs Trump feels just like diarrhea.


are you kidding me it'll be a 6 month shitpost IRL. a literal party for half a year. communism vs capitalism finally gets to battle it out not on the fields of war but at the ballot box!
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Mar 3 2020 03:41pm
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are you kidding me it'll be a 6 month shitpost IRL. a literal party for half a year. communism vs capitalism finally gets to battle it out not on the fields of war but at the ballot box!


it will make for some long lasting memeories. but just ewwwwwwww
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Mar 3 2020 04:21pm
it's so funny. people (on both sides, and from all backgrounds) act like they are in favour of things like universal healthcare, adequate wages, worker rights, environmental protection, affordable education, and against the washington establishment, against the donor class dictating policy by basically buying their president through financial contributions - but when it comes to voting, they will still support the guy who will continue with the same old ways of the oligarchs, who is completely beholden to big pharma, oil, the military industrial complex, and wall street, and who will do virtually nothing to better the lives of average americans.

why? i mean, people can't seriously be stupid enough to still fall for the empty promise of 'gradual change' (mk. 374 - this time we're suuuper cereal about it tho) by people controlled by the very corporations who oppose ANY such change - that promise has about as good of a track record as 'trickle down economics' - it NEVER works. but for some reason, ppl still buy into the bs narrative that the guy, who actually fights for the things they pretend to be in favour of, is somehow too 'radical', a 'communist', or totally unreasonable... it's really mindblowing how easily so many people are manipulated into voting against their own best interest. again and again...

at this point i think it's fair to ask if americans simply don't deserve any better. maybe they deserve to get fucked by their government, their employer, their insurance... maybe they deserve to get unhealthier, poorer, less educated, locked up, and exploited. you can only lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink...
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Mar 3 2020 04:28pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 3 2020 04:21pm)
it's so funny. people (on both sides, and from all backgrounds) act like they are in favour of things like universal healthcare, adequate wages, worker rights, environmental protection, affordable education, and against the washington establishment, against the donor class dictating policy by basically buying their president through financial contributions - but when it comes to voting, they will still support the guy who will continue with the same old ways of the oligarchs, who is completely beholden to big pharma, oil, the military industrial complex, and wall street, and who will do virtually nothing to better the lives of average americans.

why? i mean, people can't seriously be stupid enough to still fall for the empty promise of 'gradual change' (mk. 374 - this time we're suuuper cereal about it tho) by people controlled by the very corporations who oppose ANY such change - that promise has about as good of a track record as 'trickle down economics' - it NEVER works. but for some reason, ppl still buy into the bs narrative that the guy, who actually fights for the things they pretend to be in favour of, is somehow too 'radical', a 'communist', or totally unreasonable... it's really mindblowing how easily so many people are manipulated into voting against their own best interest. again and again...

at this point i think it's fair to ask if americans simply don't deserve any better. maybe they deserve to get fucked by their government, their employer, their insurance... maybe they deserve to get unhealthier, poorer, less educated, locked up, and exploited. you can only lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink...


You can be for these things without being a socialist. Its as simple as that. Yang was basically the only choice that seemed to actually want to help and was a capitalist.
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Mar 3 2020 04:37pm
Quote (krackprophet @ 3 Mar 2020 23:28)
You can be for these things without being a socialist. Its as simple as that. Yang was basically the only choice that seemed to actually want to help and was a capitalist.


that's preposterous, no you can't. universal healthcare will always be 'socialist' - just like equal opportunity education or worker protection is...

but your post is the perfect illustration of how that kind of propaganda works on people. the US government already has plenty of 'socialist' elements. massive subsidies for fossil fuel, tax breaks for the rich and corporations, bailouts for banks... just because they tend not to label those 'handouts', like they do with policies that would benefit average americans, doesn't mean it's different in nature. this whole 'socialist' vs 'capitalist' narrative just serves the fearmongering purpose - it's a core element of making people vote against their interest, and it's rather frightening how effective those labels are...

This post was edited by fender on Mar 3 2020 04:38pm
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