the debate was an overall mess, everyone was talking over each other, moderators had no control. this wasn't a good night for anyone imo. that said, when people start booing when you suggest that teachers should be paid more, you know what kind of 'audience' you have there...

I very much agree with you that it was overall a mess. Not well organized and no one really walked out in a better position (IMO OFC) aside from Bloomberg. That's only because his performance in the last debate was so fucking poor that he had no possible outcome other than to improve. I thought Amy K did well, but she's just not an exciting candidate. This isn't a milk toast candidate type of election.

They also boo'd him terrible response to his support of communist Cuba, among other things - Bernie had some bad moments and got exposed. I will say that the audience was MUCH more vocal in this debate than the others I've watched.

Bloomberg Tinfoil hat time? Did he pay for seats to boo and heckle?

could be an audience of teachers. all of which understand that "we just need to pay teachers more" is a really bad answer for a plan on how to fix education in america. source, my wife, a teacher, in america, who hates that "answer".

never realized how punchable buttigieg's face is

The crowd in attendance was basically Bloomberg boomers, as tickets to attend the debate ran from $1750 to $3200. Bernie's base isn't the crowd that has that kind of disposable income laying around to drop on debate tickets.

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R&M.

The crowd wasn't just Bloomberg drones, it's silly to suggest that only rich democrats support Bloomberg.

Debate audiences were filled before he was on that stage - and Comrade Barnie has gotten PLENTY of applause for his insane ideas and "Billionaire Bad - Free good" rhetoric during the debates.

This post was edited by djman72 on Feb 26 2020 09:04am

an audience of teachers? with those ticket prices? yeah, sure...

i think we've been over this before, you have a very 'interesting' way of framing everything bernie suggests in a negative way. regarding this specific issue, it is very much not like you suggest "one candidate just wants to throw money at the problem, thinking it's some kind of magical fix, while others have comprehensive plans to improve education - that somehow don't involve better pay for teachers" - it's more like "some candidates acknowledge and want to improve the situation, and to do that, suggests (amongst other things) to pay teachers adequate wages, while others largely ignore the topic and have no concrete plans to address them". so even if you insisted on dropping all context, the version that includes better pay for teachers and nothing else would still be preferable to the current one - just ask your wife.

that said, notice how no one actually suggested that you "just" have to pay teachers more and it'll fix everything? it's always interesting to see what lengths some people go through in order to spin something positive into something negative, or the other way around. i mean, you're surely not suggesting that the studio audience booed because they thought it was a bad idea, assuming bernie believed this would solve the entire issue, and other candidates had better solutions, are you?

did u really take that throwaway comment joking about the lack of knowledge most politicians show on education so seriously that u spend 15 minutes typing this up? lol

"it's interesting to see what lengths"...... so like 1 sentence?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 26 2020 09:08am

yes. you’re his mortal enemy lmfao

the 'lengths' part was less about the physical act of typing a few lines, but more about the mental gymnastics behind some of the comments.

no matter how often you walk back comments by characterising them as "throwaway" or "joke", you won't be able to rationalise away how they overwhelmingly go against bernie. so by all means, if you're done 'joking' and mocking that someone would take the education issue seriously, ask your wife who she thinks is best on education in this democratic field - instead of 'jokingly' strawmanning positions in order to dismiss them, while carefully avoiding to explicitly take a stance that someone could hold you to. you're not camboy, you can do better...