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#21
Feb 13 2020 01:14pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 13 2020 02:10pm)
the irony of mentioning hard in a condom discussion.

but for real tho, prep and shit exist in part due to people not wanting to use a bag. condoms aren't 100% effective, but many people also just wont use them.


How many of those people would say yes to sex with a person with HIV without any protection?
The reason for pep is because of assholes outlines in op's post. prep is more for your category imo that know the risks going in.
Neither are being used cause the second party in op's post was not informed.
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Feb 13 2020 01:32pm
Quote (King Atrhur @ Feb 13 2020 01:14pm)
How many of those people would say yes to sex with a person with HIV without any protection?
The reason for pep is because of assholes outlines in op's post. prep is more for your category imo that know the risks going in.
Neither are being used cause the second party in op's post was not informed.


i kinda agree, but would rephrase it that prep exists because people lie about having HIV or because they dont know they have HIV. so people use it so they can have sex without worrying about lies. i dont think many people would say yes to having sex with someone with HIV at all. unless they're bug chasers, then they're not on prep.

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Feb 13 2020 01:36pm
Knit picking aside you get what I'm saying now.
Wasn't concerned tbh about the few exceptions like bug chasers and such.

Dude in ops post got exactly what he deserved, it was not a drastic punishment.
There needs to be examples like this to try and deter others cause clearly people can't be trusted on their own.
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Feb 13 2020 02:48pm
Quote (King Atrhur @ Feb 13 2020 02:04pm)
drastic? lol dude could of sentenced those girls to death.
treatment of HIV works well when its detected early if they don't know and develop aids then what?

I mean if condoms so fucking flawless why does prep and pep exist.


Drunk driving has a far higher fatality rate than sex with a condom. So why should the punishment be so much worse for failing to inform?

If someone deliberately tried to infect someone with HIV by having unprotected sex with them, then I would agree, throw the book at them. That should be attempted murder, at least. But while condoms are not 100% effective, as those lobbies are falsely portraying, they ARE usually effective, so the risk is minimal. They still should inform people so that they can make their own informed decision, but I don't think such a strong punishment fits the crime of failure to inform of a small risk.
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Feb 13 2020 02:56pm
Quote (ReturnFormer @ 13 Feb 2020 15:48)
Drunk driving has a far higher fatality rate than sex with a condom. So why should the punishment be so much worse for failing to inform?

If someone deliberately tried to infect someone with HIV by having unprotected sex with them, then I would agree, throw the book at them. That should be attempted murder, at least. But while condoms are not 100% effective, as those lobbies are falsely portraying, they ARE usually effective, so the risk is minimal. They still should inform people so that they can make their own informed decision, but I don't think such a strong punishment fits the crime of failure to inform of a small risk.


lol
imo the crime for drunk driving isn't high enough

This post was edited by ChrisKz on Feb 13 2020 02:56pm
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Feb 13 2020 04:32pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 13 2020 01:10pm)
the irony of mentioning hard in a condom discussion.

but for real tho, prep and shit exist in part due to people not wanting to use a bag. condoms aren't 100% effective, but many people also just wont use them.


tbf, a lot of the prep type pills dont work for "people assigned female at birth" (im direct quoting the latest fucking commercial for it directly. just food for thought about prep.

Quote (pwb3 @ Feb 13 2020 01:02pm)
Could you please not lump the entire gay community as one group that thinks the same? Not all of us are HIV advocates. Straight people get HIV, too, you know.

I am gay and I refuse to date anyone who is HIV positive. In addition, I am monogamous. I also am a Christian and have moderately Republican views. I am not “mainstream” and there are gays who hate me because I believe in God and do not support Hillary or Bernie.

If you checked out profiles on some gay dating apps, you’ll eventually run into a few who say they are “not into gay scenes” meaning they don’t go to Pride or gay bars, etc. They hate the gay drama. They just want a simple life, and many live deep in the country for that reason. They just want peace and a happy, stable relationship with their S.O.



This would’ve been more accurate.


its like were the same person. even down to type preferences.
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#27
Feb 13 2020 06:27pm
Wait, lefties are once again getting rekt by their own regressive BS? No way!? S H O C K I N G.

If only we didn't have Trump this wouldn't be happening!
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#28
Feb 13 2020 10:51pm
Quote (ChrisKz @ Feb 13 2020 03:56pm)
lol
imo the crime for drunk driving isn't high enough


not drunk driving per se, failure to disclose to a passenger that you are intoxicated. thats putting someone else at far greater risk than protected sex with an hiv positive person. people tend to view sex related and biological (infectious) related offences as worse than other offenses, even if theyre statistically less siginificant. theres really no reason to, tho. the statistical rates of occurance should dictate the seriousnessof the punishment for something that was only a risk and resulted in no actual harm, not out feelings about that risk.
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#29
Feb 14 2020 05:35pm
Quote (xBx @ Feb 13 2020 02:32pm)
its like were the same person. even down to type preferences.


twinsies! :angel:
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#30
Feb 17 2020 10:15am
Quote (Testiclese @ Feb 13 2020 10:19am)
Unconsenting exposure to a health hazard.


Which can be said about many things, but that we don't similarly criminalize.

Again, what was the harm caused to justify 3+ years in prison?

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