I did...it's almost like I can agree with one part and not the other.

listen champ you @'d me. then i asked questions to try and get what you're even saying in a run on vague post, you reply with more vague shit and dodge basic questions.

were your parents hard working or not? if they were, you can still disagree with my statement, but your example means fuckall. and if they were shit parents, like mine, and you had to use an outside reference, then really just replace "parent" with "mentor" in my post and ive got no issues. i had many mentors myself. i'd just rather not post a 5 page study on parent and parental stand ins to say "hard work is important, and parents can influence you".

It's pretty easy to read, champ. The post wasn't vague at all. It's ok I shall "dodge".

im no longer confused by any of your posts. im curious about your experience to see if you disagree with me on a personal or philosophical, or both, level.

ill just assume your parents are shit because your position makes more sense that way. otherwise you had a personal experience right in line with my post and just wanted to call me an idiot. and that's totally something a quality poster like you wouldnt do, and hasnt done a bunch of times. its not like every month or so you randomly @ me then run away like a coward lol. cant even answer a yes/no question.

see you in a month or so i guess.

The delocalized slave which will soon have to compete with a robot or to get an implant in the body.

Moar "freedom" pls

Parents level of education has been and continues to be highest indicator of success.

Given humans have free will anybody can change their circumstances.

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 11 2020 12:26pm

Is there such a thing as an economic-growth ceiling? How many goods and services does a population really NEED. I see a lot of 'hard working' murricans blowing their 'hard earned' cash on junk, excess, and toys. Mortgaging a ~2000sqft house, lease 2+ cars, and filling their spaces with mediocre junk doesn't equal success for a lot of people.

Investments > hard work if you really want to earn $$, however investments are such a waste of human potential, wish they were valued less than hard work.

"but but but i have a single example of someone who came from nothing and only morons need studies, but also i'll reference studies incorrectly"

If hard work is what made you economically secure, janitors would be millionaires and most millionaires would be paupers.


The economy is actually not doing very well. GDP is down. Only about 60% of working age adults are participating in the labor force, but our unemployment stats don't even track the the ones who have dropped out and stopped looking. People are being priced out of their homes. The stock market is floating on a trillion dollars in deficit spending that was used mainly by corporations to buy back their own stocks. Less than 40% of Americans have a 401k and less than half of them have more than $10k in. And in 5 years it will all have been wiped out by the economic crash being set up by the Republicans right now (and they're using all of the tools to recover from a recession right now so when an actual recession hits there will be no tools left) so the people in the 50-60 age group who are happy about what they see today are going to be living in 2007 era levels of depression when it comes time for their planned-but-never-actualized-retirement. Tax cuts for the rich were made permanent and the tax bill is going to come due for the working classes to pay for them soon when they sunset. The economy is rigged against hard working people and in favor of nepotism and graft.

People are right. Things aren't hopeful for anyone except the already well-off. Fluff stats trumpeted by Trumpists are just sad.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Feb 11 2020 12:46pm

I'm first generation college in my family.