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Jan 14 2020 02:42pm
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Jan 14 2020 02:28pm)
By that logic, then what you view as parasitic is also a matter of opinion.


Yes, that is correct. After all, parasites never think they are parasites.
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Jan 14 2020 02:54pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 14 2020 01:20pm)
It is reasonable given the premesis, but incomplete. Landlords dont add anything material, but definitely add non material value.


how is maintaining a property not adding anything of material value.

for a landlord to meet that requirement they'd have to have a property where they own it, pay taxes on it, but replace nothing and maintain nothing. landlords generally mow lawns, replace appliances, fix carpets/windows/paint in changeovers of tenants, etc. these are all services i as a home owner have to do myself. now obviously they get a profit for this service, but that's essentially their hourly rate for being a landlord who is on call 24-7 for issues. time is a material value, as are many of the services they provide.
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Jan 14 2020 03:19pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 14 2020 12:34pm)
What's wrong with lending something out in exchange for monetary compensation

I can rent tools at home depot that would be prohibitively expensive otherwise



Monetary compensation and profiteering are very different things.
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Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Jan 14 2020 03:00pm)
Renting out property is a business. It isn’t against the law and can be great way to make money. Therefore, landlords are not parasites. The real parasites are shitty tenants that have big families and are on welfare. Also the tenants that are sneaky and try to rent rooms to other people that are unknown to the landlord and not part of the lease agreement. The worst thing is when they don’t pay and because they have kids, it takes some time to remove them.


Finding roommates to help with rent happens pretty often with younger adults to cut costs. Of course, the legit way is to apply and co-sign together.

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Quote (excellence @ Jan 14 2020 12:52pm)
>it is sickening to rent assets to willing customers
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At ridiculous cost/profit yes.
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Jan 14 2020 03:21pm
Quote (Hecht55 @ Jan 14 2020 04:19pm)
Monetary compensation and profiteering are very different things.


Just a matter of where you draw the line, what do you see as the difference between the two
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Jan 14 2020 03:24pm
I have no problems with landlords existing and even profiting from owning and renting houses. But there definitely are some people here who don't adhere to law/building code and will bully you out of your room/house if you protest. Luckily I haven't had that problem, but I have heard of it happening and the police not really doing anything. Pressing charges would be too expensive.

So in essence, the problem is not with the concept of rent and landlords, but rather with enforcement of current law.
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Jan 14 2020 03:26pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 14 2020 01:07pm)
perhaps you dont know what majority means. the USA has a homelessness rate of 0.2%, which is even high compared to industrialized nations.

that includes people both sheltered and in shelters. housing shortages are a regional, not national, issue. and mostly in VERY high cost of living places such as San Fran or Manhattan.



Allowing people to buy up everything and rent it at high profit creates unrealistic prices that the lower and lower middle classes can't afford to buy in. We have created entire classes of people who are forced to work themselves to the bone just to pay rent / survive. While a handful of people collect wealth and contribute nothing.

I see you cited a homesless statistic as if it means anything, people shouldn't be forced into renting because wealthy people have inflated the cost of property so lower middle class people can't even begin to think about buying. It's just plain wrong.

Nobidy should be able to own multiple single family detached homes as income. Commercial/industrial is a different avenue.

At the very least we should be regulating the prices/ownership of lower end residential properties.
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Jan 14 2020 03:29pm
Quote (Hecht55 @ Jan 14 2020 03:26pm)
Allowing people to buy up everything and rent it at high profit creates unrealistic prices that the lower and lower middle classes can't afford to buy in. We have created entire classes of people who are forced to work themselves to the bone just to pay rent / survive. While a handful of people collect wealth and contribute nothing.

I see you cited a homesless statistic as if it means anything, people shouldn't be forced into renting because wealthy people have inflated the cost of property so lower middle class people can't even begin to think about buying. It's just plain wrong.

Nobidy should be able to own multiple single family detached homes as income. Commercial/industrial is a different avenue.

At the very least we should be regulating the prices/ownership of lower end residential properties.


i cited a stat because you said "majority". that a word that means "most by percent". you used it, not me. and when you said it you were wrong.

but again, you're talking about a regional issue. for the majority, and yes i do mean most by percent, of people in america or canada finding and renting a property to live in at a reasonable % of your earnings isn't an issue.

i suppose we could drastically relax requirements to get a loan for a home so that more of the lower class could get home loans. i think i remember us trying that before, unsure how it ended up.
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Jan 14 2020 03:32pm
Quote (Hecht55 @ Jan 14 2020 04:26pm)
Allowing people to buy up everything and rent it at high profit creates unrealistic prices that the lower and lower middle classes can't afford to buy in. We have created entire classes of people who are forced to work themselves to the bone just to pay rent / survive. While a handful of people collect wealth and contribute nothing.

I see you cited a homesless statistic as if it means anything, people shouldn't be forced into renting because wealthy people have inflated the cost of property so lower middle class people can't even begin to think about buying. It's just plain wrong.

Nobidy should be able to own multiple single family detached homes as income. Commercial/industrial is a different avenue.

At the very least we should be regulating the prices/ownership of lower end residential properties.


Who are you to decide what private citizens should be doing with their assets? If i want to buy a house and there's a seller eager to sell the house why do you feel entitled to interfere with that transaction?
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