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Dec 11 2019 03:00pm
Quote (Santara @ Dec 11 2019 01:53pm)
https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article238203004.html

California took away the right to bear arms from 66,000 people in an effort to stop 100 people from buying ammunition. No, that's not hyperbolic, because access to ammunition is fundamental to the right to bear arms.




Excellent topic title. Had to read the whole article before I made the connection. But excellent, none the less.




/e Kudos

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Dec 11 2019 03:13pm
Quote (Santara @ 11 Dec 2019 15:54)
Lol Boomer. Okay faggot.

There's this thing called a photograph on the ID. You can look at it and then compare it to the person in front of you. The database serves no useful purpose other than to stand a barrier to the free exercise of one's rights.


okay Boomer,

>doesn't understand the practicality, and importance of identification to assert rights
>thinks asking to confirm and confirming identity is taking away rights
>thinks a picture on a piece of plastic should be all we need for identification as a barrier to selling someone a piece of equipment meant to kill people

hurry up and die

thanks.
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Dec 11 2019 03:14pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 11 2019 03:00pm)
Glad to have your support in the abolition of private property comrad.


Don't be silly. Property ownership is a right, and the notion that me owning property takes rights from you is asinine.
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Dec 11 2019 03:21pm
Quote (Phaggot @ Dec 11 2019 03:13pm)
okay Boomer,

>doesn't understand the practicality, and importance of identification to assert rights
>thinks asking to confirm and confirming identity is taking away rights
>thinks a picture on a piece of plastic should be all we need for identification as a barrier to selling someone a piece of equipment meant to kill people

hurry up and die

thanks.


My parents are boomers, rand.

I understand just fine that peasants and supplicants such as yourself might find it easier to lick the palms of your government masters to make asking for your rights easier. I also understand that one doesn't ask permission to engage in their rights.
When the condition added to your right is that you failing to jump through their hoops means that you can't exercise your right, it is de facto no longer a right and has been taken from you.
You're the moron who thinks having the addresses match is critical in identifying the person on the card, not me.

Please, don't vote.
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Dec 11 2019 03:23pm
Quote (Phaggot @ Dec 11 2019 03:13pm)
okay Boomer,

>doesn't understand the practicality, and importance of identification to assert rights
>thinks asking to confirm and confirming identity is taking away rights
>thinks a picture on a piece of plastic should be all we need for identification as a barrier to selling someone a piece of equipment meant to kill people

hurry up and die

thanks.


LOL @ you thinking Santara is a boomer.
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Dec 11 2019 03:27pm
Quote (Santara @ 11 Dec 2019 16:21)
My parents are boomers, rand.

I understand just fine that peasants and supplicants such as yourself might find it easier to lick the palms of your government masters to make asking for your rights easier. I also understand that one doesn't ask permission to engage in their rights.
When the condition added to your right is that you failing to jump through their hoops means that you can't exercise your right, it is de facto no longer a right and has been taken from you.
You're the moron who thinks having the addresses match is critical in identifying the person on the card, not me.

Please, don't vote.


Incorrect.

A person that has these rights must identify themselves. children argue semantics, building the strawman, It isnt' about an address, or a picture, it is about the existing processes in which we as Humans identify each other.

A person has to identify themselves as that person, or else then every single person on the planet would be able to go into an american gun store and willy nilly buy guns to be used for things other than hunting ducks.

If only Americans have the right, then how can someone discern that the patron is an American???!?!?!? IDENTIFICATION.

I am a moron, yet you cannot grasp the excruciatingly simple concept of why I need to show that I am an American to buy a gun. :thinking:

Quote (Surfpunk @ 11 Dec 2019 16:23)
LOL @ you thinking Santara is a boomer.


well if he isnt that is even worse. fuck.

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Dec 11 2019 03:29pm
Yet here you are arguing the straw man about the gun, when the topic is specifically about ammunition (when one is buying ammunition, it is a pretty safe assumption that one already owns the gun to use it).
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Dec 11 2019 03:34pm
Quote (Santara @ Dec 11 2019 03:14pm)
Don't be silly. Property ownership is a right, and the notion that me owning property takes rights from you is asinine.


Absent of property all parties have a right to use any resource. Once you claim something as your property I lose that right. Therefore your having property infringes on my right to use an object I would otherwise have a right to.

The rights of one infringe on the rights of others. Its most obvious in the case where a king owns all the land, but the issues don't totally go away on distribution.
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Dec 11 2019 03:35pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 11 2019 03:34pm)
Absent of property all parties have a right to use any resource. Once you claim something as your property I lose that right. Therefore your having property infringes on my right to use an object I would otherwise have a right to.

The rights of one infringe on the rights of others. Its most obvious in the case where a king owns all the land, but the issues don't totally go away on distribution.


You snooze, you lose. :)
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Dec 11 2019 03:41pm
Guns and ammo are the same as far as I'm concerned. You can't use one without the other. As someone who lives in CA, it's a fucking mess that all your data is spread across various state agencies (DMV, voter registration, etc.) I'm probably not in compliance with ALL my stuff to be perfectly honest.
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