Chill, bruh.

Let's toss in the "How many men" Conundrum to really get this going.

If some random man on the street comes up to you and takes your car without your consent, Most people would consider this theft.

But what about 100 men in a gang, is it still theft?

what if 1000 men get together and create a system without your consent and vote, letting you vote as well, but the majority want to take your car. Is that still theft?

What "Number of men" constitutes a valid seizure of another persons property if they're in the minority.

This post was edited by kclla on Dec 4 2019 06:09pm

No

I'll take the position that taxation is theft but that it doesn't matter and the government should continue stealing because we like the result and the ends always justify the means.

What are you going to do to stop them? Authority is derived from force after all.

Force aside, Is it still stealing? That's the question.

it’s not theft. that said most of us would prefer to see a better “return” on our tax dollars

Anything is stealing depending on how you define it. "Is taxation theft" is an easily answerable question once you define theft.

Are you asking why you need obey laws you did not explicitly agree to?

This post was edited by duffman316 on Dec 4 2019 06:19pm

No. I'm only asking that question.