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Nov 14 2019 07:07am
Quote (fender @ Nov 14 2019 09:00am)
just because i'm refusing to play your transparent little games of 'point out something that is particularly damning, so i can spin it in a way that suggests harmlessness or plausible deniability' (like describing pushing white genocide conspiracy novels as 'recommending award-winning books') does not mean that the information presented is not conclusive evidence of stephen miller's bigotry, racism, and his close ideological ties with white nationalism.

you've made your own position very clear: instead of addressing the claims or even refuting them, you went straight to quoting right wing propaganda outlets in order to smear the source.
you're a 'scummy and anti-intellectual' white nationalist apologist.


Asking you to make a point or at least highlight a point out of a long article you posted is not an elaborate game to trick you and defend white nationalism, moron.

You are human garbage now trying to smear me as a white nationalist apologist. Get the fuck out of here, loser.
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Nov 14 2019 07:29am
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Asking you to make a point or at least highlight a point out of a long article you posted is not an elaborate game to trick you and defend white nationalism, moron.

You are human garbage now trying to smear me as a white nationalist apologist. Get the fuck out of here, loser.


'scumbag / anti-intellectual / moron / human garbage / loser...' you really have some compelling 'arguments' there.

it's not a smear to point out that you didn't even TRY to address the topic, that your first impulse was to smear the source (by quoting right wing propaganda outlets, the irony).
it's not a smear to point out that you describe a novel perpetuating the 'white genocide' conspiracy as 'award winning book'.

nobody made you defend an unapologetic bigot and white nationalist like stephen miller - that was YOUR choice, so don't get mad at me.
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Nov 14 2019 07:41am
Quote (fender @ 14 Nov 2019 13:35)
like i stated in my op, it's not really a surprise to anyone who knows the first bit about that scumbag - it's just interesting to have it in written form, particularly to see the reaction of those who pretended it was somehow outrageous to link trump's senior policy advisor with white nationalism...


Outlining this stuff in a smear essay that consists of 75+% duds is not very effective.

And then the whole piece jumps the shark when it, at the end, tries to link President Calvin Coolidge to Hitler and Nazi ideology. Coolidge, the man who granted Indians citizenship, tried to improve US relations with Latin America, had a long-standing reputation of disliking the KKK and never having appointed any Klansman, and who, according to his biographers, was "being devoid of racial prejudice". That section was really exposing the massive bias and malice of the whole article.
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Nov 14 2019 07:49am
HG, formerly known as fender, has made another despicable post.

He is not interested in honest debate, facts or intellectual pursuit, just smearing people.

I do not intend on wasting any more time or effort communicating with such scum at the current time.
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Nov 14 2019 08:02am
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Outlining this stuff in a smear essay that consists of 75+% duds is not very effective.

And then the whole piece jumps the shark when it, at the end, tries to link President Calvin Coolidge to Hitler and Nazi ideology. Coolidge, the man who granted Indians citizenship, tried to improve US relations with Latin America, had a long-standing reputation of disliking the KKK and never having appointed any Klansman, and who, according to his biographers, was "being devoid of racial prejudice". That section was really exposing the massive bias and malice of the whole article.


Coolidge was actually pretty great.
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Nov 14 2019 08:11am
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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

leaked emails of trump's senior political advisor expose his racist views (not really a surprise considering trump's own racism, and miller's previous statements and policies).

but hey, he happens to be jewish - so i guess he can't be a white nationalist, right? that's at least what the right wing argued when ilhan omar called him out. i wonder how the shills are going to rationalise this one...





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The emails, which Miller sent to the conservative website Breitbart News in 2015 and 2016, showcase the extremist, anti-immigrant ideology that undergirds the policies he has helped create as an architect of Donald Trump’s presidency. These policies include reportedly setting arrest quotas for [illegal] immigrants, an executive order effectively banning immigration from five Muslim-majority countries and a policy of family separation at refugee resettlement facilities that the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Inspector General said is causing “intense trauma” in children.


First off, calling illegal aliens undocumented aliens is a farce.



Secondly, a lot of Trump's "policies" prevent things like this...












...and lastly,














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Damn! I almost forgot the 75 year old white guy killed by a group of well-tanned youths, in Minneapolis (Ilhan Omar's district), for asking the kids to keep the noise down.

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Nov 14 2019 08:31am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 14 Nov 2019 14:41)
Outlining this stuff in a smear essay that consists of 75+% duds is not very effective.

And then the whole piece jumps the shark when it, at the end, tries to link President Calvin Coolidge to Hitler and Nazi ideology. Coolidge, the man who granted Indians citizenship, tried to improve US relations with Latin America, had a long-standing reputation of disliking the KKK and never having appointed any Klansman, and who, according to his biographers, was "being devoid of racial prejudice". That section was really exposing the massive bias and malice of the whole article.


oh right, the 'malice' of calling a white nationalist a white nationalist. i love how triggered right wing snowflakes get when you expose them for what they are.

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HG, formerly known as fender, has made another despicable post.

He is not interested in honest debate, facts or intellectual pursuit, just smearing people.

I do not intend on wasting any more time or effort communicating with such scum at the current time.


our resident white nationalist apologist is not interested in addressing stephen miller's ties to that despicable ideology, only making shitty excuses for it and attacking those who are exposing his fellow right wingers. back to reading your 'award-winning books' then i guess...

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Nov 14 2019 08:35am
Quote (fender @ Nov 14 2019 09:31am)
oh right, the 'malice' of calling a white nationalist a white nationalist. i love how triggered right wing snowflakes get when you expose them for what they are.



our resident white nationalist apologist is not interested in addressing stephen miller's ties to that despicable ideology, only making shitty excuses for it and attacking those who are exposing his fellow right wingers. back to reading your 'award-winning books' then i guess...





But it's OK to "hate" Americans and everything they stand for? :lol:
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Nov 14 2019 08:36am
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First off, calling illegal aliens undocumented aliens is a farce.



Secondly, a lot of Trump's "policies" prevent things like this...




https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a0RZbgX_460svvp9.webm







...and lastly,





https://i.imgur.com/jgN2RMB.png


Willie Dille's story is very tragic, but it is grossly misused both in this instance and many others.

The police contacted her but she did not want to press charges nor give any other information for an investigation by the police. There was nothing supporting her claims other than her word, which makes (and should make!) prosecution more or less impossible. Psychological aid was offered as well, but denied by Dille. The timing of the rape allegations was questionable as well, which did cause a lot of online outrage, especially because she's a member of one of the most inflammatory parties in the country, and she has herself done things that were very inflammatory as well (re-tweeting a video calling for extermination of muslims with nuclear weaponry). Regardless of her words and online behaviour, the backlash was way too rough, and she should have been supported and pushed to press charges so there can be a proper investigation. It's very sad she ultimately killed herself, but this is the road all the online toxicity ultimately leads to.

I'd also like to ask you specifically what policies would have prevented Willie's death. As you're using her as political ammunition, substantiate your claims or show us how heartless you are.

This post was edited by balrog66 on Nov 14 2019 08:37am
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Nov 14 2019 08:44am
Quote (Ghot @ 14 Nov 2019 15:35)
But it's OK to "hate" Americans and everything they stand for? :lol:


you're really desperate to make this topic about anything but stephen miller, trump's senior political advisor, racist, white nationalist, and all around scumbag, huh?
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