lmk how impeachment is polling in swing states

This has zero chance of getting 2/3 needed to impeach

Two democrats in primarily R districts voted against impeachment and when this get closer to 2020 even more will get cold feet if people stay skeptical. If not it's political suicide.

If you are a betting man,you should put the house, wife and kids that Trump is Potus come election time.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 4 2019 09:14pm

He's going to be impeached. I think what you mean is "convicted" which requires a 2/3rd vote and I agree that it won't happen. I doubt that the public testimony will be convincing enough to make people switch but you never know. At the moment, we probably have 52 senators who would vote to convict.

Requiring them to do so is illegal. Stop hating on law and order ya anarchist.

ITT ... bunch of libtards waggin their dicks

So, I only managed to read about 100 pages of the 317 page document but here is how I would break it down:

1. Yovanovitch had an opening statement about how she's a career diplomat and was seemingly blindsided (pages 14-25). Officials in the state department really disliked how she was treated.
2. Dems focused on the events that led to Yovanovitch's recall. The strategy here seems to be trying to establish a serious disconnect between official State department work and Giuliani (25-67)
3. GOP seemed to focus on procedural issues, how WaPo got her opening statement, how the State department reacted to the Hill article, and the Burisma investigation. In addition, they were interested in how the embassy advised the Ukrainians regarding prosecution. It seems like the GOP strategy is to make Burisma seem different than other Ukrainian companies. Yovanovitch wasn't particularly knowledgeable about Burisma since it was before her time.(68-108)

This post was edited by thundercock on Nov 4 2019 10:09pm

Event number 43098573 that would have ended even the most corrupt presidencies in this country's history.

It's now political suicide to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Republicans have corrupted this nation beyond repair.

Impeachment is not a legal process, it is a political one. A president not getting impeached and/or not getting removed from office if the corresponding political majorities arent there is perfectly in the spirit of the constitution.



Which 5 GOP senators do you have in the convict column? Romney, Collins, Gardner, but who else?

Murkowski and Sasse. Granted, public testimony can change that (ayes could turn to nays and vice versa).

I really dont think that Sasse, who's running for reelection in 2020 in deep-red Nebraska, would vote against Trump, unless he doesnt intend on running for reelection anyway.

Murkowski... I dont think that she could survive voting for impeachment. Ok, Alaska is not a suuuper 'trumpy' state, but still clearly conservative. She already had a political near-death experience in 2010 when she got primaried by a more conservative guy and only barely won the general election as a write-in candidate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_Senate_election_in_Alaska

Basically, Murkowski being perceived as insufficiently conservative by the Alaska GOP base has gotten her into huge electoral trouble before, I doubt that she could survive a vote to remove Trump from office. Note that the Republican healthcare bill/Obamacare repeal attempt in 2017 would objectively have fucked Alaska over and thus was quite unpopular there, so her voting against it was something totally different.