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We live in a society
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Jul 29 2019 11:05am
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4 shot dead is a daily reality in Chicago or LA, as a result of gang violence.


how about the 1 dead 11 shot in Brooklyn, same day as this shooting?
nobody in the media cares about dead gutter trash, but some white folk get shot next to their Teslas in California and the media is poring over the shooter's literary choices to search for connections to white supremacy
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Jul 29 2019 11:30am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 29 2019 12:05pm)
how about the 1 dead 11 shot in Brooklyn, same day as this shooting?
nobody in the media cares about dead gutter trash, but some white folk get shot next to their Teslas in California and the media is poring over the shooter's literary choices to search for connections to white supremacy


anything that is an outlier to 'we need more gun laws' is set aside. black on black violence in a city with no guns sold in it in 30 years = do not report on.

shit about half of the time that a right winger brings up mental health reform it's called a lazy pivot or deflection.

people are even willing to let stupid accessories like bump stocks go without a fight and are willing to close the gunshow loophole. not that it would prevent any shootings.
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Jul 29 2019 11:36am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 29 2019 06:20am)
"Yada yada, strict gun laws in one state are ineffective if the neighboring states have lax gun laws, the only solution is abolishing the 2nd amendment and a nation-wide buyback/confiscation of all guns."


Truly the better option is for minorities to be armed so that next time a Trump supporter tries a mass shooting he gets filled with bullets instead.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 29 2019 10:05am)
how about the 1 dead 11 shot in Brooklyn, same day as this shooting?
nobody in the media cares about dead gutter trash, but some white folk get shot next to their Teslas in California and the media is poring over the shooter's literary choices to search for connections to white supremacy





What are you talking about?

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Jul 29 2019 11:40am
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 29 2019 12:30pm)
anything that is an outlier to 'we need more gun laws' is set aside. black on black violence in a city with no guns sold in it in 30 years = do not report on.

shit about half of the time that a right winger brings up mental health reform it's called a lazy pivot or deflection.

people are even willing to let stupid accessories like bump stocks go without a fight and are willing to close the gunshow loophole. not that it would prevent any shootings.


that was a meme that almost made sense prior to the internet, but now that private gun transactions occur all the time between parties and gun shows are a far less common place for sales and far more likely to have background checks, its actually kind of backwards
It would be nice if we could have some kind of background check database for public sales that was easy enough to use to make it convenient for private sellers, but there's no way to force anyone to use it and the privacy concerns and data risks are absolutely insane.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 29 2019 12:37pm)
that was a meme that almost made sense prior to the internet, but now that private gun transactions occur all the time between parties and gun shows are a far less common place for sales and far more likely to have background checks, its actually kind of backwards
It would be nice if we could have some kind of background check database for public sales that was easy enough to use to make it convenient for private sellers, but there's no way to force anyone to use it and the privacy concerns and data risks are absolutely insane.


afaik in almost any state you can ask a gunstore owner to run a background check and act as a meeting place for any hand to hand gun sales. many wont bother, but i personally would to make sure you're not selling to a psycho or something. generally (my grandpa had people ask all the time) you just tell them no ammo will be part of the sale and they'll likely sell at least a box on site when the sale happens.

the "gun show loophole" is indeed mostly a democratic talking point, and not reality.

the quagmire that needs solving is a 4th amendment abiding process for mental health professionals and police to work together in cases where shootings seem plausible. what burden of proof that would need to be met to do it in a constitutional way would be difficult to figure out, especially without notifying the potential shooter as that could be a trigger that now is the time to act.
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Jul 29 2019 12:04pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 29 2019 01:30pm)
anything that is an outlier to 'we need more gun laws' is set aside. black on black violence in a city with no guns sold in it in 30 years = do not report on.

shit about half of the time that a right winger brings up mental health reform it's called a lazy pivot or deflection.

people are even willing to let stupid accessories like bump stocks go without a fight and are willing to close the gunshow loophole. not that it would prevent any shootings.


I remember the Right championing the Medicaid expansion to make MH accessible, for sure.
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Jul 29 2019 12:27pm
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I remember the Right championing the Medicaid expansion to make MH accessible, for sure.


I remember the left calling for 'gun control' (they know wont pass), while taking NRA money hand over fist, for sure.
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Jul 29 2019 12:28pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 29 2019 12:36pm)
Truly the better option is for minorities to be armed so that next time a Trump supporter tries a mass shooting he gets filled with bullets instead.


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