worst ive seen are people who suffer from general pain, lower back or a shoulder etc. arthritis basically.

then they get a surgery, the general pain disappears with the localized pain from the procedure, and all of a sudden they're stuck with the idea that they will have to return to a life of aches and pains. or they can keep taking the pills even after the surgery heals up and live like a king.

Take out the poverty and cycle of addiction and the environment that breeds it and you still have a significant amount of people outside of that going to the doctor to get help and they finish their prescriptions as addicts

these are our brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers and they need help and compassion because it could happen to any of us

they judge and hate on themselves enough without our help

That's because not everyone knew about every program or law that existed like they do today. There was a massive amount of ignorance in the 80s and 90s due to a lack of information.

Money has nothing to do with addiction. I was prescribed oxy for couple weeks for an injury a year ago. I didn't feel I needed anymore when I ran out. I had zero desire to ask for more so I didn't. Haven't taken them since and I've had zero desire obtain more.

People see the government spending and they act as if that represents the individual's benefit. The fact is when it comes to cash aid and assistance it is nothing like people on the outside think it is for the individual

It's not as easy as people think and it's not nearly the benefit people think it is. When it comes to assistance and poverty there are massive cracks that many people fall through all the time

Factor in the unnecessary shame and pride beat into people by a society full of stigmas around getting help as well



Lack of money and opportunity do

That's nice for you. Step outside your own circumstances, body/mind, and life for a change and you might not look so foolish about addiction

This post was edited by Beowulf on Dec 20 2018 11:46am

I grew up very poor until I was 12. We didn't always eat. We didn't own a TV, a landline phone) service, internet, we washed our clothes in the sink with Dawn and dried them on clothespins, 4 people lived in a 400sq ft dump, we got our first reliable car when I was 11. It was a $400 1976 ford ltd. I've never abused drugs, drank alcohol, or even smoked. So STFU with your poor people with no opportunity do drugs more than rich people. Anyone with too much pride to accept help is an idiot as well. And stigmas only matter if you listen to them. And people who make bad personal and financial choices are the only ones who currently fall through the cracks. It's a people problem, not a money problem.

This post was edited by Superman on Dec 20 2018 02:52pm

Addiction is an individual plight. What doesn't affect you might be another person's doom. You strike me as never having experienced true addiction. It is insidious by how it creeps up on people. Lot of people, like you, have that cocksure attitude "It'll never happen to me, I'm different and stronger". Until it actually does. Sometimes people start slow and it gradually builds and builds, and before they know or admit it, they have a problem. "When you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change. The devil changes you."

I used to be a close-minded hard-ass like you, until I met my match in the form of alcohol addiction. Once I start, I can't stop. Like David Bowie commented, it'd be the death of me. So I'm basically an alcohol addict. The cravings can be maddening and if I slip up, it's a world of hurt that can take a week to recover. My logic-driven, "engineer mind" can't reason with it, other than to simply abstain from it. It sucks because I revel with people who drink to let loose. They go home, sleep, wake up, and it's back to business. Me, an addict, I would drown into a spiral if I feed it.

Unfortunately some people don't pick their addictions, some just stumble into them through circumstance. War veterans, mental patients etc. Medicine is a practice, you are being practiced on by trained people. It's not an exact science and there might be side-effects. You're have an ailment? Here, let's try this dosage. Whoops, looks like we've had unintended side-effects and you're addicted. Looks like you'll need more meds to alleviate this addiction lol.



Had a tooth go bad this summer which resulted in two operations in the span of 3-4 weeks. Both times I was prescribed amoxicillin and vicodin. The most pain I felt was about 6-8 hours after the bone grafting, which immediately dissipated after sleeping. Two prescriptions of Hydrocodone-Acetaminophen, an opioid, which is renowned for its disposition to addiction, for two brief dental visits. I can only imagine how much pharma-candy is handed out throughout the country for trivial or ulterior reasons.

This post was edited by CarsV on Dec 20 2018 03:14pm

Fentanyl was invented by a belgian chemist it helped reduce a bit the american population for sure god bless belgium

Lol I’ll dog on Americans myself but damn dude you might have some problems tbh

Im just jokin bro. Cranberries singer lady died because of it