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Nov 10 2018 06:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 10 2018 06:11pm)
The low prices also shafted the budgets of the Saudis, the Qataris, the Russians, and so on. All those countries found ways to use their oil-driven wealth to diversify their economy, as you say, or to at least prepare some funds for bad times.
I am fully aware of how Venezuela got to where it is today - I'm just dumbfounded by the unimaginable incompetence required to even pull this off.


Russia barely got out from Obamas sanctions by selling to China nearly at-cost so their country wouldnt be totally fucked.

The Saudis get propped up by us and their population already lives like shit.

Lots of other factors at play than diversifying, although thats the strategy to long term success.
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Nov 10 2018 06:18pm
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Russia barely got out from Obamas sanctions by selling to China nearly at-cost so their country wouldnt be totally fucked.

The Saudis get propped up by us and their population already lives like shit.

Lots of other factors at play than diversifying, although thats the strategy to long term success.


Still, Russia and Saudi-Arabia are surely no model countries, neither in terms of economic policies nor in terms of their society, and yet they both were able to somehow cope with the low oil price. Venezuela, by contrast, got completely wrecked.
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Nov 10 2018 06:29pm
Quote (IceMage @ 10 Nov 2018 22:52)
Maybe Churchill was right... some populations just aren't capable of self-governance.


shocking racism right there
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Nov 10 2018 09:02pm

Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 10 2018 11:30am)
You sound like our Republicans who live in the South and vote Republican based on lies. Conservatism is apparently a mental disorder which prevents people from acknowledging the truth.


Gusanos love to shit talk leaders who take away their slaves and plantations. They get chased out of the country, then pretend they were targeted based on ethnicity or religion.

The reality is they're greedy, evil, inhumane scumbags who are lucky they weren't lined up against a wall and shot for crimes against humanity.

Quote (FGdumpster @ Nov 10 2018 04:09pm)
At least command economies aren't innately evil like capitalism though right?


Singapore has a larger public sector than Venezuela.

There's a socialist party in charge but that doesn't mean they've gone full communism. It's like just because the U.S. ha(d)s all 3 branches of government controlled by conservatives doesn't mean we're a theocracy with a completely laissez faire economy with zero corporate regulations.
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Nov 10 2018 09:06pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 10 2018 05:18pm)
Still, Russia and Saudi-Arabia are surely no model countries, neither in terms of economic policies nor in terms of their society, and yet they both were able to somehow cope with the low oil price. Venezuela, by contrast, got completely wrecked.



They produce a different kind of oil. The margins for KSA light sweet is much different from heavy Venezuelan... their extra-heavy crude oil lies in the range 1000–5000 cP.
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Nov 10 2018 10:58pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Nov 10 2018 09:02pm)
Gusanos love to shit talk leaders who take away their slaves and plantations. They get chased out of the country, then pretend they were targeted based on ethnicity or religion.

The reality is they're greedy, evil, inhumane scumbags who are lucky they weren't lined up against a wall and shot for crimes against humanity.



Singapore has a larger public sector than Venezuela.

There's a socialist party in charge but that doesn't mean they've gone full communism.
It's like just because the U.S. ha(d)s all 3 branches of government controlled by conservatives doesn't mean we're a theocracy with a completely laissez faire economy with zero corporate regulations.


Singapore has a flat income tax of 15% and absolutely no capital gains tax; it is one of the most economically free countries on earth. Try again.
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Quote (FGdumpster @ Nov 10 2018 08:58pm)
Singapore has a flat income tax of 15% and absolutely no capital gains tax; it is one of the most economically free countries on earth. Try again.


Your reading comprehension is awful. You do know what the public and private sectors are?

Wait, no. No you do not. Apparently you think the public sector is based on taxes lololllol

This post was edited by sylvannos on Nov 11 2018 12:39am
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Nov 11 2018 08:58am
Sounds like the Venezuelans are an inferior race of people who need to be colonized for their own good
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Nov 11 2018 10:50am
Quote (duffman316 @ 11 Nov 2018 15:58)
Sounds like the Venezuelans are suffering from a horrible dictator and need to be colonized to promote democracy and human rights. (This has absolutely nothing to do with their oil.)


ftfy! ;)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 11 2018 10:52am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Nov 2018 11:50)
ftfy! ;)


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