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Sep 5 2018 05:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 5 2018 07:35pm)
How convenient that this story comes out 2 days after the midterm race turns into full gear. A story which confirms all of the Democratic talking points and mainstream media reporting on the Trump White House and sounds like it came directly out of the pen of Democratic spin doctors. :rolleyes:


So you think the NYT fabricated this?
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Sep 5 2018 05:46pm
What do you guys think the odds are of this being a real op-ed or a troll/hoax/otherwise fake?
There are competing factors to boost/hamper the credibility. For one, there's the long record of hoaxes/fakes. But we also know that some staffers in the white house have absolutely been engaged in nefarious schemes- the senate intelligence staffer banging the NYTimes presstitute for example. Its likely he's not alone. There's the element of fairly unimportant staffers / functionaries who could present themselves as 'senior administration officials', like that very guy, but not really be anyone consequential. And in the white house, there should be no shortage of them. Then there's the mindgame aspect, where they'd have motive to run such a fake story just to get clicks and try to get Trump to be paranoid.

When the NYT quotes an anonymous source making sensationalist claims, that doesn't tell us much if its real or not. But putting a guess to it? I'd say most likely scenario is LARP'ing secretary/staffer, not anyone actual important official, a member of the shallow state not muh deep state
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Sep 5 2018 05:49pm
Quote (Horford @ Sep 5 2018 04:42pm)
So you think the NYT fabricated this?


they better have every i dotted and t crossed or it goes right into the fake news narrative

if the white house really is in the chaos we so often hear about it's about to get amplified over this one. I'd assume it's only a matter of time before this person gets exposed and outed

Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 5 2018 04:46pm)
What do you guys think the odds are of this being a real op-ed or a troll/hoax/otherwise fake?
There are competing factors to boost/hamper the credibility. For one, there's the long record of hoaxes/fakes. But we also know that some staffers in the white house have absolutely been engaged in nefarious schemes- the senate intelligence staffer banging the NYTimes presstitute for example. Its likely he's not alone. There's the element of fairly unimportant staffers / functionaries who could present themselves as 'senior administration officials', like that very guy, but not really be anyone consequential. And in the white house, there should be no shortage of them. Then there's the mindgame aspect, where they'd have motive to run such a fake story just to get clicks and try to get Trump to be paranoid.

When the NYT quotes an anonymous source making sensationalist claims, that doesn't tell us much if its real or not. But putting a guess to it? I'd say most likely scenario is LARP'ing secretary/staffer, not anyone actual important official, a member of the shallow state not muh deep state


my first thought as well

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Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 5 2018 07:46pm)
What do you guys think the odds are of this being a real op-ed or a troll/hoax/otherwise fake?
There are competing factors to boost/hamper the credibility. For one, there's the long record of hoaxes/fakes. But we also know that some staffers in the white house have absolutely been engaged in nefarious schemes- the senate intelligence staffer banging the NYTimes presstitute for example. Its likely he's not alone. There's the element of fairly unimportant staffers / functionaries who could present themselves as 'senior administration officials', like that very guy, but not really be anyone consequential. And in the white house, there should be no shortage of them. Then there's the mindgame aspect, where they'd have motive to run such a fake story just to get clicks and try to get Trump to be paranoid.

When the NYT quotes an anonymous source making sensationalist claims, that doesn't tell us much if its real or not. But putting a guess to it? I'd say most likely scenario is LARP'ing secretary/staffer, not anyone actual important official, a member of the shallow state not muh deep state


So it sounds like you think it's the real deal but not written by a Kelly or Mattis type?
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Sep 5 2018 05:52pm
Quote (Horford @ Sep 5 2018 04:50pm)
So it sounds like you think it's the real deal but not written by a Kelly or Mattis type?


if it's not a big household name it's going to get fake news'd
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Sep 5 2018 06:13pm
Quote (Horford @ Sep 5 2018 07:29pm)
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You know you're wrong not sure why you even bother...

Start typing in "grabbing at straws" on Google and it'll correct it to "grasping"... anyways the fact that you're so focused on that and not this damning op-ed from a deep state steady state operative says a lot...




Actually, I already wrote this BS topic off in post #9
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Sep 5 2018 06:26pm
David Frum says we're in a "constitutional crisis" right now.

If this op-ed is true, i'd tend to agree.

Hope whoever wrote that op-ed reconsiders evoking the 25th.
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Sep 5 2018 06:29pm
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Sep 5 2018 06:32pm
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David Frum says we're in a "constitutional crisis" right now.

If this op-ed is true, i'd tend to agree.

Hope whoever wrote that op-ed reconsiders evoking the 25th.


I'll throw out a prediction

media has their fun

Trump people and general conservative types blow it off

person is outed and it's someone high enough to not be actual fake news but rand enough to successfully be sold as that by Trump and the following and is fired/resigns and written off as a bad egg

nothing really changes in the immediate future but does continue to fire up the left and beat down the right for the midterms
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Sep 5 2018 06:33pm
It's been known for a long while that Trump has people in his inner circle actively working to stop his worst impulses, and mitigate people trying to manipulate him.

In particular he is incapable of critically analyzing information so his staffers have to carefully monitor what comes across his desk for fear he gets false or difficult to comprehend information thrown at him that he can't snuff out himself.
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