how about YOUR statement is a lie? you have no proof he sold them but claim my statement is a lie anyways. goes both ways, you know? double standard?




making unverifiable claims in order to call mine a lie, classic trumpapologist really. how about YOU take a breath and try to focus on the issues for once, and not your excuses to ignore them?


do you see a problem with his massive scaling back on environmental protection or not? is it a danger for our future in your opinion or not?
do you really think he needs to loosen environmental protection to defend the american economy against the evil chinese, who invented man made climate change? don't you think the jobs created by supporting conventional energy companies like that while destroying our environment could not be created by focusing on making alternative energy sources more efficient and competitive? seems to work in other first world nations where oil companies don't have such a big influence on politicians and lawmaking. coincidence?




you're wrong again. this thread is about trump's disregard for environmental protection and his support of oil companies. it's about the danger that climate change is to the world. you try to make it about something else because you're not interested in discussing the issue but that does NOT change what this thread is about and i know, after all i made it...

This post was edited by fender on Jan 25 2017 06:22am

Your work hasnt been prevented, dumbass.

You must be kidding. You absolutely must be kidding.

If you are a scientist then you don't need to write in bold to get attention, you'd be able to contribute something substantial to this topic and would write CO2 with capitals.. tnx men.

EPA is a useless organization. State DEP orgs do 80% of the work for a lower price.

Dont worry, i think nearly everybody here will live long enough to see the disaster in action.
Specifically for usa im thinking about the californian drying out, but i guess theres others areas; especially in middle-lands (global warming/change is going exponential in full continental zones)


The disaster of corruption and lack of regulations. Heads will fall and i will be here if they need someone to pull the guillotine lever

Follow it comrades

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jan 25 2017 06:38am

Yaay, shall we in the mean time buy popcorn ??.. We have to watch the wars around the world caused by droughts and emigration of half of our world's population.

This post was edited by Knaapie on Jan 25 2017 06:41am

That logic doesn't work the way you think it does.
The evidence of the lie is posted publicly for all to see.

You made a positive claim with certainty and without qualification to demonize him, without proof, and left out key facts and evidence that indicate its most likely false.



"classic trump apologist"
I'm a radical libertarian that never supported trump and have been highly critical of him when he deserves it.

I'm arguing specific points in a specific area, and against lies made in service of expanding government. That doesnt make me an apologist.
I am focused on the issues and would prefer if you argued them instead of making appeals to emotion and lying.
Pointing out the fallacious nature of your post is not invalid.



I do not believe the Chinese invented it or any of that.
It does not therefore follow that the EPA is awesome. Yes I think they have gone too far in a number of areas.
Scaling back their regulations is not inherently a danger to our future. It can be very beneficial.

Its clear you are trying to leverage one in support of the other. I'm not going along with it.

The fact that jobs could be created doing something does not mean its efficient or right or in our best interests.
Unreliables should have to compete on merit rather than cronyism. Nor does there have to be a strict dichotomy there. There is room for multiple types of energy development.
Right now fossil fuels are very beneficial for our way of life. If something better comes along, great.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jan 25 2017 06:43am