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Oct 20 2016 03:47pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Oct 20 2016 10:32pm)
My red flag goes up when a salesman/CEO sais: "we even sell them at a 70% reduction" and then compare the product to another service of higher price..

The actual question is why the cost for the product went up 500% for his company to sell these products.. That isnt adressed.


He was saying they only jack up the margins on a few products and that's where they make most of their money. Most of their products are low cost and they make a very small margin on them.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what he said, I don't know how it works in detail.
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Oct 20 2016 04:19pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 20 Oct 2016 20:01)
Honestly, I don't think it can be any more of a logistical nightmare than the pre-Obamacare system. Highest spending in the world and like 34th in quality. Abysmal.

This is a great interview with Martin Shkreli about the healthcare and pharmaceutical industry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoMlxVimwiU


You did this on purpose didn't you ?

It indeed is a great interview

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Oct 21 2016 12:53pm
Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans have no idea what the ACA does, or even what it is. It's such a massive and far-reaching law that also naturally is very complex, and it takes a long time to educate people about a subject like that that they know very little about. It also doesn't help that conservatives have spent the past 7 years lying to them about every aspect about it; every single thing they've said about the ACA is a lie.

It's been tremendously successful. It has its problems, but they would be fewer in amount and lesser in severity if its opponents weren't using all their time and energy trying to sabotage it.
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Oct 21 2016 12:55pm
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Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans have no idea what the ACA does, or even what it is. It's such a massive and far-reaching law that also naturally is very complex, and it takes a long time to educate people about a subject like that that they know very little about. It also doesn't help that conservatives have spent the past 7 years lying to them about every aspect about it; every single thing they've said about the ACA is a lie.

It's been tremendously successful. It has its problems, but they would be fewer in amount and lesser in severity if its opponents weren't using all their time and energy trying to sabotage it.


You mean like how they said it would cause a death spiral? Oh wait...
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Oct 21 2016 12:57pm
Quote (Santara @ 21 Oct 2016 10:55)
You mean like how they said it would cause a death spiral? Oh wait...



Death spiral panels are the worst. :(
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Oct 21 2016 01:03pm
Socialism in murica will work?
Neva! :rofl:
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Death spiral panels are the worst. :(


nn obfuscation
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Oct 21 2016 01:05pm
Quote (Winternight @ Oct 21 2016 01:03pm)
Socialism in murica will work?
Neva! :rofl:


I wish I was dumb enough to think obamacare is socialism.
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Oct 21 2016 01:24pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Oct 20 2016 06:19pm)
You did this on purpose didn't you ?

It indeed is a great interview

http://i.imgur.com/R4cvM3T.jpg


Kanye/Shkreli 2020
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Oct 21 2016 01:26pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 21 2016 11:55am)
You mean like how they said it would cause a death spiral? Oh wait...


Well, yes, they've made a ton of predictions that turned out to be completely inaccurate, including that one. There was the one about it actually increasing the insured rate (that was a good one), about the death panels, that no one would enroll, that the ACA wouldn't meet its enrollment goals, that people wouldn't pay their premiums, that it will "kill jobs," that it will increase the deficit, that Americans would hate their coverage through the ACA.

I could go on and on but they've said a lot of dumb things and I don't think it would be fair to make me recite all of them.
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