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Sep 12 2016 11:51am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Sep 12 2016 12:45pm)
How many times has he promised that this year?


to his credit she would have hit the pavement if it wasnt for all those people holding her up
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Sep 12 2016 12:02pm
Quote (howtodisappearcompletely @ Sep 12 2016 01:31pm)
What does this 65% even mean?


Estimated chance of winning the election.

Quote (Santara @ Sep 12 2016 01:50pm)
It does when you're trying to sell copy.


They are actual betting odds so they are close to the actual odds. If they tighten, it means the race itself has tightened.

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Sep 12 2016 12:05pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 12 2016 11:50am)
It does when you're trying to sell copy.


That's true. If they hadn't needed a horse race out of 2012 all the stories would have been "Obama's still winning"
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Sep 12 2016 12:08pm
Great time to lay down a fat bet on Hillary.

Races do tend to tighten tho
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Sep 12 2016 12:10pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ 12 Sep 2016 18:45)
How many times has he promised that this year?


Today or yesterday, he confirmed again wikileaks will release really strong material, im trusting him more than HRC btw


Damn i cant wait
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Sep 12 2016 12:12pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 12 2016 06:10pm)
Today or yesterday, he confirmed again wikileaks will release really strong material, im trusting him more than HRC btw


Damn i cant wait


https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/51yeqr/wikileaks_hid_documents_showing_syrian_deposits/d7g8i73

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Theres a theory Wikileaks is controlled by the FSB/SVR; and are useful idiots whose dissent is being capitalized on
The NYTimes massive story on this 9/2016: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html

10/26/10 - WikiLeaks ready to drop a bombshell on Russia

11/01/10 - Russia's FSB to Wikileaks: We Can Destroy You

1/20/11 - Julian Assange gets Russian Visa

1/25/12 - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's TV show to be aired on Russian channel

4/6/16 - WikiLeaks: US Gov't Behind Panama Leaks to Attack Putin

8/8/16 - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/opinion/can-we-trust-julian-assange-and-wikileaks.html

Some leaks led to domestic discussions about how the USA behaves and allowed the nation to reflect on what it wants from the governments and what a more perfect union looks like

Best theory breakdowns:

https://20committee.com/2016/06/11/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent/
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/07/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent.html
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/has-wikileaks-been-infiltrated-by-russian-spies-b876a8bc035a#.ipfyxsr9p
http://20committee.com/2015/01/12/snowden-and-russian-intelligence-an-update/
http://20committee.com/2015/08/31/wikileaks-is-a-front-for-russian-intelligence/
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130910/13145824474/former-nsa-officer-wikileaks-is-front-russian-intelligence-snowdens-probably-spy.shtml

WL threatened to leak Russian info in Oct/Nov 2010 http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-ready-to-drop-a-bombshell-on-Russia.-But-will-Russians-get-to-read-about-it

Reddit had a HUGE thread about it: https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dwolw/wikileaks_ready_to_drop_a_bombshell_on_russia_but/

Moscow sent VERY SERIOUS threats to WL and they haven't said a SINGLE bad word about Russia since then:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/01/russias-fsb-to-wikileaks-we-could-destroy-you/

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2028283,00.html

So far Russia has had no official response. But on Wednesday, an official at the Center for Information Security of the FSB, Russia's secret police, gave a warning to WikiLeaks that showed none of the tact of the U.S. reply to the Iraq revelations. "It's essential to remember that given the will and the relevant orders, [WikiLeaks] can be made inaccessible forever," the anonymous official told the independent Russian news website LifeNews.

Why did Wikileaks get cold feet?

Wikileaks will never hesitate to embarrass a NATO country.
What changed in 2010?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/11/30/moscows-bid-to-blow-up-wikileaks-russians-play-by-different-rules.html

Why in December 2010 did Medvedev suggest Assange be nominated a Nobel Prize?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reception_of_WikiLeaks#Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Reddit had a thread on THAT too:

https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ej3ks/russia_calls_for_wikileaks_founder_julian_assange/

Then...

"Public and non-governmental organisations should think of how to help him," the source from inside president Dmitry Medvedev's office told Russian news agencies. Speaking in Brussels, where Medvedev was attending a Russia-EU summit yesterday , the source went on: "Maybe, nominate him as a Nobel Prize laureate."

Isn't that REALLY strange?

Have you never wondered how/why Assange got a RT talkshow

in the beginning of 2012? After he threatened to expose Russian secret documents?

How did Assange have connections to house Snowden in Russia?

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-told-snowden-to-stay-in-russia-2014-5

This seems odd

Was WL started as a Russian OP?

I say no

Has it become one?

Starting to look so

Even the KSA leaks are looking a little more suspicious

https://www.newsbred.com/shia-sunni-angle-india-and-wikileaks

Saudi Arabia is a Western ally. Iran is pro-Russia. Look at the Oil Price War b/w Russia and KSA.

Who leaked TPP? Who is TPP not including?

Russia and China

*Who leaked the Sony pictures files?

WL

Theres a clear consistent anti-western tint here that should be investigated.

Why did WL post how CIA spies travel?

http://news.discovery.com/human/wikileaks-publishes-cia-tips-for-traveling-spies-141222.htm

Malware servers used in DNC hack linked to hack on Bundestag via Russian intel: https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/756892523885240322

There are Phillip Agee

vibes from Assange/Wikileaks/Snowden

WL doxxed John Brennan's family: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/wikileaks-doxxes-cia-chief-s-wife-and-daughters.html#pq=T9jQM0

WL & Anon twitter accts infighting over WL consistent support for pro-western talking points:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks_forum/status/666337141962706949

Some anon accts chastising WL for this tweet:

https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/666076431433252865

https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/666035812887339012

Anon retweeted comments suggesting that wikileaks is toeing a distinctly Pro-Kremlin line:

http://imgur.com/a/5a8u1

http://imgur.com/9CfqrDi

https://twitter.com/cjcmichel/status/757016594031730688

Fmr WL worker Daniel Domscheit-Berg fell out w/ Assange & had a problem with the exclusively anti-Western view

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wikileaks-spokesman-quits-the-only-option-left-for-me-is-an-orderly-departure-a-719619.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wikileaks-motivations_us_57a2575ee4b04414d1f365b1

Remember Assanges protege Sigurdur Thordarson who got rolled over for the FBI?

www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-wikileaks-mole-20140106

Sigurdur Thordarson said on this same thing on twitter:

https://twitter.com/singi201/status/382925421123489792

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rp1oe9

...WL fights for Justice but still the Editor In Chief of WL is running from Justice for those women in Sweden, he's breaking laws by breaking he's Bail Condition, WL claim they have no polticial ties to any government/or political party and im not saying they do, but it is strange that WikiLeaks host's an TV Show on Russia Today, which is operated by money from the Russian Federation, and still no files about Russia has been reveled, nor Ecuador or Venezuela,, WL has published information, Some here say that documents revealed by WL showed War Crimes, that it self is partly true, 95% of the data that WikiLeaks has published such as the Iraq and Afghan War logs, Diplomatic Cables don't show anything illegal or wrong doing, the rest 5% maby 1-2 % of that show something that's illegal, the rest might show some wrongdoing, perhaps not illegal, So Yeah what Bradley Manning did was illegal that can't be debated, did he get the treatment he deserved ? Hell no, Should he have been charged like he was? Yes, why? He revelaed hundreds of thousunds of classified information that did nothing but embarress the US, If he would have leaked only information that showed act of War Crimes, then i don't think he would be in the some positions as he is in today, but though getting a sentance from 136 years to 35 years roughly,...

The man who used to WORK at WL finds their identification with the Russians as suspicious!

What made Snowden say this when he left the airport in Russia?

https://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edward-Snowden-to.html

Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.*

Russia? Venezuela? Bolivia? Nicaragua? Ecuador? Bastions of freedom?

Snowden has span of 11 days of that he cant account for when he was in Hong Kong, but at the Russian Embassy.

One of the FIRST revelations about the NSA documents he leaked didn't come from Greenwald/Poitras/etc, but from the South China Morning Sea.. His whole campaign about preserving domestic intelligence integrity started off by revealing chinese espionage

CIA Agent Bob Baer (inspiration for movie Syriana) thinks Snowden was turned when he was working in Geneva

If they were honest about being anti-West, we wouldnt have to dodge about pretending to be objective sources of info. They filter whatever narrative they want to push. Anyone who offers you information, even if that information is true, should make you suspicious. What does that person have to gain from sharing it with you?
No one's unbiased but what Wikileaks is choosing to omit is equally important.


This isn't entirely reliable, but it offers some perspective that Wikileaks isn't as unbiased as some people would like to think.

This post was edited by balrog66 on Sep 12 2016 12:13pm
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Sep 12 2016 12:13pm
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You mean like how Hillary did at the town hall the other night when repeatedly questioned about her email


Even reptilians get agitated.
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Sep 12 2016 12:13pm
Pretty great to see Assange trading in all of his goodwill to be biased and try to warp the election tbh, he's always been a scumbag.
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Sep 12 2016 12:15pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Sep 12 2016 12:22pm)
That's what happens when you're a corrupt, lying candidate who calls a large portion of Americans 'deplorables' then passes out in 77* weather amidst rumors of poor health conditions


No need to coddle these deplorables on the alt-right. Appeasement is never good with those types of people. They are enemies of multiculturalism and this is a multicultural society. Any racist ideology, even if they are calling themselves "racialists" now (they aren't even trying to hide it) should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

These people are against belief in the inherent dignity and worthy of human beings. They aren't 'conservatives' in any real sense of the word, not in the American context of it anyway.

Trump is barely even a man. Why trust the White House to a person who can't commit to anything including beliefs, values, and even family?

Clinton called a group largely defined by the vague notion of white supremacy deplorables, while Trump has more or less insinuated indirectly or said directly that all non-whites are either ghetto-living drug addicts who do nothing but go to prison, eat on food stamps, and not work, rapists coming from Mexico, or terrorists coming from the Middle East. He even managed to make fun of retarded people in front of a crowd and on cameras....

You're truly comfortable voting for Eric Cartman over Wendy Testeburger, even if Wendy is a whiney liberal?
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Sep 12 2016 12:15pm
FiveThirtyEight gave Hillary Clinton an 89% chance of winning the election based on polls in mid-August.

Now their forecast is giving her a 68% chance. She currently has a 2.2 point lead over Trump on RealClearPolitics.
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